Electric Cars -- anyone own one?

[ronsatspokane]

Amen brother.....we are definitely related in some way.lmao

I'd say your alot smarter and more articulate than me.ill give you that no doubt...I'm just extremely good with my hands and can make anything with common sense.your that articulate cordial guy I wish I could be im to rough around the edges.lol

Hey buddy we are everywhere they can't stop us out.lol

Here is the thing, we have a thread about EV's on a gun forum. EV's have been political for some time now and now the topic has flipped 180 degrees where the king of the ev world was Tesla and now king is viewed as a traitor to the left wing cause. We further have some left wing extremists who have infiltrated are really good gun forum. In my opinion, since we don't have an off topic sub forum, this whole thread should be scrubbed. It was nice for the left wingers to out themselves however.

 

[ronsatspokane]

I think someone forgot about the bussed in paid protesters of the Left.

George Soros will eventually run out of money. I think he should be deported to Hungary.

 

[precision1]

Nevermind I read back through this post .

I'll keep my powder dry for when y'all destroy this country.....
Wasting breath with city folks.lol

 

[precision1]

Here is the thing, we have a thread about EV's on a gun forum. EV's have been political for some time now and now the topic has flipped 180 degrees where the king of the ev world was Tesla and now king is viewed as a traitor to the left wing cause. We further have some left wing extremists who have infiltrated are really good gun forum. In my opinion, since we don't have an off topic sub forum, this whole thread should be scrubbed. It was nice for the left wingers to out themselves however.

I agree.i even scrubbed yours for saying you'd drive a electric car I jumped the gun on a Pacific coast person hoping for being a like minded person.i think we are very similar but I won't give in till it's a normal part of society not shoved down my throat to own me

Anyways we are all just wasting breath.too many people don't care about being on right side.

 

[precision1]

We'll stay in our hole down here.
Southern Baptist like we like it

Last place in country for any of the mess to come to .

Way I like it

I hop up in my ram 1500 395hp and ride to the woods.slow way of life
Peaceful being from the south.slow Christian way of life.no struggle just Jesus around here

Slow peaceful no hurry or worries around here just preaching to the lost .......

 

[precision1]

Congratulations pacific north west .no one wants the electric cars and now you got your green cars and your burning them .great job


Y'all need to rise up grow a pair.

It's so sad y'all on this post who go along with this mess.

So embarrassing

 

[jrb06]

If you don't want to talk about EV's in this tread go someplace else!

 

[Dgd6mm]

Love the T Rex Ram but a nice little ev would be great for running back and forth to town.

 

[Wild Bill IV]

The future vehicles will be a hybrid that doesn't use fossil fuels!!! And the engine will not utilize combustion!!! It will be a steam engine!!! The principle concept is simple!!! Instead of using fuel heat to turn liquid water into steam, generation of steam can be achieved by mixing hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) and silver!!! The silver will act as a catalyst (will not be consumed in the reaction) and turns the liquid hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) into one oxygen (O gas) and steam (H2O gas)!! Now the high pressure steam can run through a turbine coupled to a generator, making electricity that replenished the storage battery!!! Thus propelling the vehicle and driving the injection pump of the hydrogen peroxide into the catalytic chamber on demand of low battery conditions!!! Just like hybrids today only, it will be a locomovotive engine driven by steam!!!! The battery does not need to be a large 80 kilowatt AH battery, thus reducing the weight!!!! Only bad properly of hydrogen peroxide concentration of 90% is it is highly corrosive and will burn body parts!!! Medical grade hydrogen peroxide is no more than a 3% concentration mixed with water!!!

 

[Wild Bill IV]

Typically, electricity is more environmentally friendly than other common forms of energy. A great deal comes from hydro along with, wind and solar. Since the US has an electric grid, it almost impossible to say exactly where the energy comes from. Once it in the grid, it's generic.

I didn't say you defended people protesting Tesla, I said, " You defend TESLA by misrepresenting anyone justifying the attacks on Tesla in the name of the First Amendment.." People vandalizing TESLA'S do not justify their actions using the First Amendment. People vandalizing TESLA'S are doing it to protest, for the most part, the owner and has nothing to do with the Constitution.

BS!!!

Why did they abandon the wind farm project of the east coast!!! Environment unfriendly to whales and other water creatures in constructing the farm!!! Infact, lighting hit one of the props and the debris from the fiber resin floated back to beaches causing an environmental cleanup!!! Wind farms require 100s of cubic yards of concrete and tons of steel reinforcement just for the foot pad per tower!!! The props are a waste hazard composed of resins!! where does the resin come from??? By products of crude oil refining!! And, the generator nacelle has over 800 gals of lube that needs to be changed out twice a year!!! Plus, the electrical rates are higher than fossil fuel generation due to the return of investment of the wind farm itself!!! And the wind has to blow at least 15 mph for max effiency!!! The life of a wind farm is 30 years!!! Plus the burial of the props take up a vast amount of land!! They did not degrade!!!!! WHO IS GOING TO COVER THE COSTS OF RETURNING THE LAND BACK INTO FARM GROUND OR PASTURES WHICH IS LEASED PROPERTY OF THE FARMER/RANCHER!! Is these envormentally friendly!!?

Photovoltaic cells are heavy composed rare earth elements and plastics!!! A bad hazardos waste!! Where does the plastics come from??? Once again, a byproduct of crude oil refining!!! And the large areas requires (space) is in sections of pastures and farmland!! And, sterilization or salting the soil of the ground beneath the cells is essential to prevent weeds and other plants from growing which would bloke out the suns rays!! IS THIS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY??? DID THE EPA IGNORE THE DESIGH SPEC FOR PERMITTING???? And, the efficiency of change the suns heat energy (watts/cu in) into electricity (watts) is less than 30%!! This is why it takes up so much space!!! And the photo cells have a life expectancy of 15-20 years!!! WHO IS GOING TO DO THE MASSIVE ENVIRONMENT CLEAN WHEN THESE FARMS ARE ABANDONED!!! Plus, the suns energy can not be used at night!!! Solar panels must have back up generation at night or in cloud covered days!!! Plus, they are high maintenance on keeping and cleaning the dust off and maximizing radiant solar energy!!! Envormentally friendly????

Moving onto solar mirror generation!!! It too is just like solar cell arrays!! Ground sterilization and the loss of pastures and farm ground!!! WHO SIGNED OF FOR THE PERMITS FROM THE EPA??? It too can not produce electric at night and cloud covered days which is offset with back up generation!!! Plus, birds flying into the directed concentration of solar energy are vaporized!!!! Nature can destroy this type of generation with lightning streaking the focal point tower, hail denting and/or breaking the mirrors, dust and sand storms etching the mirrors surface!!! Once again, keeping dust and debris of the mirrors is essential to maximizing radiant energy!!! Two facilities have shut down due to the high cost of maintenance and the inability to pay investors (bankruptcy)!!! ONCE AGAIN, WHO THEN, IS GOING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLEAN UP, REMOVAL OF HAZARDOUS STERILIZED TOP SOIL AND REPLACEMENT OF GOOD TOP SOIL!!!???? Envormentally friendly????

What is the cleanest and cheapest form of electrical generation today??? Nuclear!!! I'm not talking about the huge, government regulated, reactors like 3 Mile Island (deuterium/235 uranium reactor) where run away chain reaction can occur leading to China Syndrome!! I'm talking about smaller modular nuclear reactors!!! Just like the reactors in submarines and aircraft carriers where the technology has been around for over 50 years and has been PROVEN TO BE THE CLEANEST AND CHEAPEST ELECTRICAL GENERATION!! Modular reactors will relieve the load on our over loaded grid!! P!us, they can greatly reduce line lose (included in electrical rates) by being local!!! The mass of the radioactive isotopes is low enough in avoiding a run away chain reaction!!! Plus they can be hauled like semi vans!!! You are going to say nuclear waste is dirty and an environmental hazard!!! Yes they are!! That little bit of waste can be deposed in the already radioactive contaminated glass walled underground spheres from underground testing of nuclear bombs from the 60s and 70s!!! And these modules are sealed!!! One module is equal to one wind generator, running 24/7 at a consistant 15mph wind, in power!!! And these modules don't require the changing and hazardous disposal of spent graphite cooling rods!!!

JAYPLACE: Here is the true secret!!!

NUCLEAR REACTION (FISSION) RELEASES A MILLION MORE TIMES MORE ENERGY THAN CHEMICAL AND/OR PHYSICAL REACTIONS!!! PROVEN SCIENTIFIC AND THEORETICAL FACT!! Wind Generators, Solar Cells, Hyrogeneration, are all physically reactions!!! Combustion Engines are Chemical/Physical reactions!!! Leaving Nuclear (fission) as the most efficient and cleanest means of energy for electrical generation!!!!

 

[Jayplace]

BS!!!

Why did they abandon the wind farm project of the east coast!!! Environment unfriendly to whales and other water creatures in constructing the farm!!! Infact, lighting hit one of the props and the debris from the fiber resin floated back to beaches causing an environmental cleanup!!! Wind farms require 100s of cubic yards of concrete and tons of steel reinforcement just for the foot pad per tower!!! The props are a waste hazard composed of resins!! where does the resin come from??? By products of crude oil refining!! And, the generator nacelle has over 800 gals of lube that needs to be changed out twice a year!!! Plus, the electrical rates are higher than fossil fuel generation due to the return of investment of the wind farm itself!!! And the wind has to blow at least 15 mph for max effiency!!! The life of a wind farm is 30 years!!! Plus the burial of the props take up a vast amount of land!! They did not degrade!!!!!

Photovoltaic cells are heavy composed rare earth elements and plastics!!! A bad hazardos waste!! Where does the plastics come from??? Once again, a byproduct of crude oil refining!!! And the large areas requires (space) is in sections of pastures and farmland!! And, sterilization or salting the soil of the ground beneath the cells is essential to prevent weeds and other plants from growing which would bloke out the suns rays!! IS THIS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY??? And, the efficiency of change the suns heat energy (watts/cu in) into electricity (watts) is less than 30%!! This is why it takes up so much space!!! And the photo cells have a life expectancy of 15-20 years!!! WHO IS GOING TO DO THE MASSIVE ENVIRONMENT CLEAN WHEN THESE FARMS ARE ABANDONED!!! Plus, the suns energy can not be used at night!!! Solar panels must have back up generation at night or in cloud covered days!!! Plus, they are high maintenance on keeping and cleaning the dust off and maximizing radiant solar energy!!!

Moving onto solar mirror generation!!! It too is just like solar cell arrays!! Ground sterilization and the loss of pastures and farm ground!!! It too can not produce electric at night and cloud covered days which is offset with back up generation!!! Plus, birds flying into the directed concentration of solar energy are vaporized!!!! Nature can destroy this type of generation with lightning streaking the focal point tower, hail denting and/or breaking the mirrors, dust and sand storms etching the mirrors surface!!! Once again, keeping dust and debris of the mirrors is essential to maximizing radiant energy!!! Two facilities have shut down due to the high cost of maintenance and the inability to pay investors (bankruptcy)!!! ONCE AGAIN, WHO THEN, IS GOING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLEAN UP, REMOVAL OF HAZARDOUS STERILIZED TOP SOIL AND REPLACEMENT OF GOOD TOP SOIL!!!????

What is the cleanest and cheapest form of electrical generation today??? Nuclear!!! I'm not talking about the huge, government regulated, reactors like 3 Mile Island (deuterium/235 uranium reactor) where run away chain reaction can occur leading to China Syndrome!! I'm talking about smaller modular nuclear reactors!!! Just like the reactors in submarines and aircraft carriers!!! Modular reactors will relieve the load on our over loaded grid!! P!us, they can greatly reduce line lose (included in electrical rates) by being local!!! The mass of the radioactive isotopes is low enough in avoiding a run away chain reaction!!! Plus they can be hauled like semi vans!!! You are going to say nuclear waste is dirty and an environmental hazard!!! Yes they are!! That little bit of waste can be deposed in the already radioactive contaminated glass walled underground spheres from underground testing of nuclear bombs from the 60s and 70s!!! And these modules are sealed!!! One module is equal to one wind generator, running 24/7 at a consistant 15mph wind, in power!!! And these modules don't require the changing and hazardous disposal of spent graphite cooling rods!!!

I agree that Nuclear would seem to have potential. We've run submarine and aircraft carriers for years using nuclear power.

Each of the methods of electrical generation you mentioned may not work everywhere or in all situations, however, they do work. Each method continues to used and more so in certain areas.

It's true solar doesn't work well at night, but they do work when it's cloudy. Did anyone ever tell you to put sun tan lotion on when it's cloudy? So, yes they work better than one might expect.

 

[Wild Bill IV]

I agree that Nuclear would seem to have potential. We've run submarine and aircraft carriers for years using nuclear power.

Each of the methods of electrical generation you mentioned may not work everywhere or in all situations, however, they do work. Each method continues to used and more so in certain areas.

It's true solar doesn't work well at night, but they do work when it's cloudy. Did anyone ever tell you to put sun tan lotion on when it's cloudy? So, yes they work better than one might expect.

Please read the last part of my newly edited reply at the bottom 2 paragraphs and you will rethink your reply!!! I've had studies in upper level college physics!!!

 

[Jayplace]

Please read the last part of my newly edited reply at the bottom 2 paragraphs and you will rethink your reply!!! I've had studies in upper level college physics!!!

I reread your post, but I'm not sure what you think I should rethink.

 

[Wild Bill IV]

I reread your post, but I'm not sure what you think I should rethink.

Lets talk energy!! Proven scientific and theoretical fact:
Nuclear Reaction (fission) is over a MILLION TIMES STRONGER IN ENERGY THAN CHEMICAL AND/OR PHYSICAL REACTION!!!
Wind generated energy, hydro- electric generated energy, and solar panel (photovoltaic cell) generated energy are all PHYSICAL REACTIONS!! Combustion (fossil fuel engine) generated energy is a PHYSICAL/CHEMICAL REACTION!!
NUCLEAR REACTOR (FISSION) GENERATED ELECTRICITY IS A MILLION TIMES MORE EFFICIENT THAN WIND, SOLAR, HYDRO, OR FOSSIL FUEL ENGINES GENERATION OF ELECTRICITY!!!

Wind, solar and hydro energy basic principles fall under E= 1/2mgh + 1/2mv^2!!!
NUCLEAR energy basic principles formula E=mc ^2!! Einstein's equation!!!
Wind, solar, and hydro are like a SINGLE grain of sand on beach!! They are nothing compared to Nuclear!!! Wind, the solar radiation constant (on the earth surface) and hydraulic gravity are a constant or are near linear (Mathematically)!! NUCLEAR is exponential (Mathematically) due to the controlled chain reaction!!

Do what your President Joe Biden said: FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE TRUE SCIENCE IS IN THIS REPLAY!!!!
Like I mentioned in a previous reply, I have studies in UPPER LEVEL COLLEGE PHYSICS AND MATHEMATICS!!!! 105 hours of pure science to be exact!!! And, I heavily do my research as a scientist!!!!

China controls the solar panel market and has the resources for them!!! The photovoltaic cell requires special and rare earth elements which China has more than anywhere on this planet!! And its refining of crude has byproducts for making plastics to completely manufacture the solar panels!!! Is it environmentally sound to buy China made solar panels when they are one of the worse countries for dumping carbon into our atmosphere to make this product?????

 

[1911nut]

Investment advice now energy physics. This place has it all.

 

[Jayplace]

Investment advice now energy physics. This place has it all.

Yes, It's truly amazing. You never know what you can find on the internet.

 

[precision1]

And doesn't China supply all the special transformers to handle a EMP supposedly.....

Hmm go figure

Our power grid can't handle charging cars much less and EMP

My son was in military in California had to deal with having no power in his house for the blackouts or whatever it is .had to dump his freezer living in military housing congratulations Democrats.lol
I have no idea don't care it's just stupid

 

[NorCalMikie]

Havn't seen anything more on the Net lately so I'am guessing Musk and Tesla are good to go now.
Trump and the stock market are good to go.
Things are getting better every day. Wonder if Nancy and her Man got in on the low $$$ stock buy?
Schiff for brains was squawking about Trump and HIS boys buying low? Anybody care to check Schiff's bank balance and stock account?

 

[ISS]

I really like the looks of the new real Dodge Charger. My last one was a 69 Charger 500, the NASCAR SPECIAL. Fully loaded, and that nice 375 horse 440 4-bbl.
The new one is looking good now. The Hemi is coming back. I am ready for a 2026 SRT with the 800+ horse power.
The Daytona has the 760 HP electric package, but "...save the Electrons...".

 

[Wild Bill IV]

Yes, It's truly amazing. You never know what you can find on the internet.

Found this on the internet:
TESLA STOCK GAINED 19% yesterday!!! WOW!!! Are people buying Tesla EVs like crazy???
Is Tesla coming out with something that is revolutionary for the EV???
The DOW gained 3000!! UNBELIEVABLE!! Biggest single day gain in 5 years!!
Good news for retirement plans!!! Are we in a very Bullish market!!! Jamie Diamond said yesterday, the economy is in a recession!! Are you kidding me!!!! The markets are still highly volatile right now!!! Swings are going to occur!!

I don't understand.

I made the statement, and firmly believe, in order to have EVs in every household (for running around town, taking kids to school, etc, and not used for long trips), we need the Modular Nuclear Reactor Units (MNRU) to be shuffled around in high demand zones to relax the strain on our power grid with the added load of recharging EVs, and our new electrical hog AI!!! THESE MODULAR REACTORS ARE A LOT SAFER THAN HUGE 3 MILE ISLAND TYPE REACTORS WITH HUGE HYPERBOLIC COOLING TOWERS,THAT UTILIZES CRITICAL MASS OF THE ISOTOPIC ELEMENTS!! These MNRUs are like plug and play!!! Connect them to the grid, connect to external commercially availability chillers, connect the control wires (ramping up or down power due the fluctuation of demand) to a power companies control computer, and the units are adding to the local grid, thus reducing electrical line loss, reducing electrical rates to the local consumer!!! The power output of a single unit is equivalent to one wind turbine!!! The initial investment cost is a lot lower than natural gas and diesel, wind, solar, hydro, and thermo!! A big savings for consumers!!!

The neat thing about U235 is, once it is spent, the military uses the spent and depleted uranium in the core of 20mm projectiles!!! The density of the U235 is higher than a core of lead in the 20mm progos!!! This increases the inertia, thus reduces the forces of drag and wind deflection with the increased inertia over lead cores!!!

Are you long range, and extra long range shooters paying attention!!! If its good for the military, it could REVOLUTIONIZE the long range shooting sports if the SPENT U235 could be made available to the civilian markets!!!!

MOVING BACK TO THE 20mm!
I seen a 20mm, extreme long range (A couple of miles or more) bolt action rifle with 45" tube, taking up the space of a single full table at a 1000 table gun show about 20 years ago!! I have never seen a scope, about 32" long, around a 2" tube, with a 4-1/2 - 5" Objective lens, and 1-1/2" Ocular, 12 in sun shade tube, (looked like a telescope), held to the rifle with 4 massive scope mounts!! The other 4 tables had 50cal Barretts with unopened stacks of tins of surplus 50cal ammo under the tables!!! There were 6 stand up signs stating: DO NOT TOUCH!!! My brother, Chairman of the gun show committee, JOKINGLY said while looking at that rifle with a smirk on his face: THAT'S GREAT!! SPREADING DEPLETED URANIUM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!!!! I couldn't stop laughing!!!!!!