Does Anyone use Airguns on this Forum?

[brokeasajoke]

First off buy a gun that will work for your needs. I shoot benchrest with mine. A 200.00 break barrel will not work for that. It will work to hit a soup can at 20 yards or so. The information from dgeesaman is very good. I wanted to shoot br so I bought an underlever. Most of the roughly 20 shooters in our area shoot either an Air Arms TX200 or a Weirauch 97. Ck out Pyrmid Air web site. I shoot my Tx just like my bench guns. Pretty much free recoil set up like a regular rifle. I tried different methods until I found out what works for me. Some of the guys hold their gun pretty hard, for me that does not work. Some guys use a cheek weld, I don't. I also have 2 side lever guns. One of them shoots consistent 5 shot groups less than .1, in the zeros, at 20 meters. There is a learning curve, they WILL teach you bench manners.....or show you how bad yours are, lol. No reloading, almost no cleaning, .003 per shot, pretty quiet, deadly on rodents.View attachment 1531622

I'm not after stellar accuracy from it and don't expect it. With a hard pull in the shoulder I was getting about a 1.5" at 25. I find myself flinching my eyes for some reason or another with this thing.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I'm not after stellar accuracy from it and don't expect it. With a hard pull in the shoulder I was getting about a 1.5" at 25. I find myself flinching my eyes for some reason or another with this thing.

What gun are you shooting?

 

[brokeasajoke]

What gun are you shooting?

Browning Leverage.177

 

[Thauglor]

If I had to pick 3 to keep, it would be the following.
Low price-Weihrauch HW-30. Around $300. Low power, accurate and a child can cock it.
Mid price-Weinrauch HW-97K. Around $700. Quality built and super accurate.
Higher price-Weihrauch HW-100 PCP. Around $1400.

As you can see from my favorites, I like Weihrauch’s but I also own Air Arms and Diana’s.

That hw30 is now almost $400, and they are back ordered at airgunsofarizona about 30 or so deep, me included. Will be my first springer since I sold off my tx200 a few years ago, it was way too heavy to use for fun plinking

 

[tmwinds]

That hw30 is now almost $400, and they are back ordered at airgunsofarizona about 30 or so deep, me included. Will be my first springer since I sold off my tx200 a few years ago, it was way too heavy to use for fun plinking

Google Krale Shooting and go to their website. They are located in The Netherlands. They have the HW30 for $287 and is in stock.
All of my air rifles can from them. The shipping cost isn’t bad and you usually have it in about 3-4 days.

 

[Thauglor]

I know, but they don't have the deluxe version and any warranty issue you have to go through krale

 

[JEFFPPC]

That hw30 is now almost $400, and they are back ordered at airgunsofarizona about 30 or so deep, me included. Will be my first springer since I sold off my tx200 a few years ago, it was way too heavy to use for fun plinking

The HW30 can work. Only guy in our group with a break barrel is a retired farmer who shots a 30. Said he shot in the barn for pests for 30 years before coming to matches. I shot it . His trigger is under 2 oz and it's very accurate.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Browning Leverage.177

I just watched a review on this. For a 160.00 underleaver it would be fine for plinking or pest control. It would not serve you well in the BR game but that's not necessary for everyone. Like all the lower price guns trigger is not great but thatsvwhat you pay for when you spend more.

 

[glide]

The HW30 can work. Only guy in our group with a break barrel is a retired farmer who shots a 30. Said he shot in the barn for pests for 30 years before coming to matches. I shot it . His trigger is under 2 oz and it's very accurate.

I know nothing about these but am trying to learn from you guys. Break barrel, I assume you cock it with the barrel? How are the others cocked?

 

[JEFFPPC]

Google Krale Shooting and go to their website. They are located in The Netherlands. They have the HW30 for $287 and is in stock.
All of my air rifles can from them. The shipping cost isn’t bad and you usually have it in about 3-4 days.

Kale can be a great option but there is a potential problem. Last year one of our new shooters ordered a HW97 from them. His container was held in customs for over 4 months, he was crawling the walls. Personally 2 of my 3 rifles I bought used, they work great.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I know nothing about these but am trying to learn from you guys. Break barrel, I assume you cock it with the barrel? How are the others cocked?

The more accurate rifles tend to be underlevers like the Tx and HW97 or the sidelevers like the Diana54. Main reason the fixed barrels are attached right into the action. The TX200 and the He 97s are also very easy to teardown if needed or if you want so change springs. The Diana requires some sort of spring compressor. The Diana action slides in the stock when fire negating a lot of the felt recoil. It also has but more power and is often referred to as a magnum s pringer. I have killed groundhogs with mine in .22. Downside for some is they are a bit heavier and are harder to cock. But, I am not a big guy and soon to be 77, I sit down and shot 100 shots with mine. Good excercise.

 

[JEFFPPC]

The more accurate s pringer air rifles tend to be underlevers like the Tx and HW97 or the sidelevers like the Diana54. Main reason is the fixed barrels are attached right into the action. The TX200 and the He 97s are also very easy to teardown if needed or if you want so change springs. The Diana requires some sort of spring compressor. The Diana action slides in the stock when fire negating a lot of the felt recoil. It also has but more power and is often referred to as a magnum s pringer. I have killed groundhogs with mine in .22. Downside for some is they are a bit heavier and are harder to cock. But, I am not a big guy and soon to be 77, I sit down and shot 100 shots with mine. Good excercise.

 

[glide]

Do they have a magazine or are they single shot?

 

[glide]

I've been reading the other thread about suppressed 22 vs PCP also. After I read some more comments and have questions I will post for recommendations. Thanks.

 

[dgeesaman]

With few exceptions, springers are single shot.

PCPs are usually magazines but can be single shot or take a single shot tray instead of the magazine. Myself, I hate filling magazines and double-feeding a pellet so I use a single shot tray almost exclusively.

 

[balloonpilot9513]

Oh! After reading JEFFPCP”s post, and then reading yours again, I think you need a barrel over 16 inches? If so, I mistook what you said. For a PCP, the Benjamin Marauder barrel is 18 inches, I believe, its shroud is very effective at noise dampening—one of the very best on the entire market—and it doesn’t require a moderator (or, more to the point, it does not have have an integral moderator, per se). I do think you would like this gun. I just sold two excellent ones on another forum. S7

Thanks for the tip.
I don't think the Marauder will fly because the description states sound suppression and Jersey is really tough on regulations. I will have to investigate further.

 

[dantiff2]

Great deal in case anyone is looking!

PCP Rifle - Benjamin Kratos .22 Nice Wood $425

Nice Kratos in box with 3 mags and bag of factory stuff. Been holding air for months. I bought last year in a buying spree and never got around to shooting it. $425 Shipped to lower 48, Paypal F&F (or +3.5%), Zelle, Cashapp. Not interested in trades. Positive feedback on AGN and on ebay.

www.airgunnation.com

 

[Sanctify7]

Great deal in case anyone is looking!

PCP Rifle - Benjamin Kratos .22 Nice Wood $425

Nice Kratos in box with 3 mags and bag of factory stuff. Been holding air for months. I bought last year in a buying spree and never got around to shooting it. $425 Shipped to lower 48, Paypal F&F (or +3.5%), Zelle, Cashapp. Not interested in trades. Positive feedback on AGN and on ebay.

www.airgunnation.com

I saw this ad. Thanks for posting it. Someone would likely get a great deal here is right. S7

 

[Sanctify7]

With few exceptions, springers are single shot.

PCPs are usually magazines but can be single shot or take a single shot tray instead of the magazine. Myself, I hate filling magazines and double-feeding a pellet so I use a single shot tray almost exclusively.

Dgeesaman,
I have had almost zero problems with double feeding with Marauders and FX Crowns. The rare times that I did, it was my fault. My magazines for multiple rifles work close to flawlessly. I can go months and months on end without a double feed. (I do not typically shoot high volume, to be honest.) In my Crown MKII .22, I have 18 rounds in the mag, and in the .25, 16 rounds. Also, the tune in my .22 is currently set quite low—the .25 is on the spritely side. The .22 is recent to me so I have not counted shots. But with the 450 cc carbon fiber bottle, I am very roughly guessing I can get three or four hundred shots per fill—from 250 BAR (3,625 PSI) to about 150 BAR (and I can go lower to 135 BAR and still be just above the currently set regulator pressure). And at this power level, the gun is extremely quiet. I need to spend more time with the gun and be intentional about counting shots. At this tune, I have quit before the fill has so far.

I cannot speak about many kinds of guns, but I can highly vouch for the reliability of two Marauders and two Crowns, airguns that are at very different price ranges.
S7

 

[Grey Kiwi]

I have just jumped down the PCP rabbit hole. Been shooting .22 rimfire prone, and for the last few years benchrest indoors at 25 yards.
But got tired of 'this ammo works, but now it doesn't as the Lot No/. is no longer available'.
Or $30 per box (50 rounds) of a reasonable target ammo (Eley Match) and now and then you still get the odd duff round that goes 'Poof' and drops into the 9 ring (instead of 'Bang' and into the 10 ring).
Have ordered an Anschutz 9015 HP BR50 (which is still somewhere between Germany and NZ).
Selling my Farley 2 rest as well, and have a AR250 on the way (it's better suited to my shooting now).
But of course...the Anschutz needs air pumped in to it...oh well, yeah...I need a pump. So a GX CS4 is on the way as well.
Expensive? Only as much as you make it so.
In a couple of years I'll be about even with what I'm doing now and buying the .22 ammo.
400 to 500 pellets in a tin (.177) for around $20 - $30 (top quality target .177 are QYS at the $20 area).
That's a lot of shooting for $20, and some electricity to run the pump to top up the rifle tank.
Younger guys could get a hand pump to keep costs down but I'm pushing 77 so I'm all for just poking a button and let an air pump do the work for me.
No local dive shops here that will pump up a tank over 220 Bar, but that may work for some of you.
Yep, be good to see a part of the forum devoted to air guns.