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[rwj]

We really ought to at least try to maintain a passing connection to Covid-19 in our comments.

I concur with the notion... but Covid and politics are, and likely will remain, intimately intertwined...

 

[Adam in WI]

But the spread is still basically out of control there. Why is that?

Starting today the city of Ames mask mandate goes into effect. Things aren't getting any better.

Good question. Mask mandate has been in place since August 28. The surge here has largely taken off after it went into effect. Bars and restaurants are limited to 25 percent capacity. A challenge to that order was struck down. I'm not sure why you think state Republicans here are responsible when their hands are essentially tied by emergency orders.

 

[Brians356]

Their Republican legislature then. Leadership vacuum from them. About as useless as puke in a space helmet. Apparently they aren't doing squat to try and get things under control.

A virus, like the weather, cannot be "controlled". Give it up. (If you're being sarcastic, you need to so indicate.)
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[Brians356]

I concur with the notion... but Covid and politics are, and likely will remain, intimately intertwined...

The politics of Covid-19 response are fair game, it would seem obvious by now.
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[D Coots]

If this applies.......

 

[mike a]

And here we are in Oregon with our train wreck of a governor. -- State population of over 4,200,000, and 635 deaths. Just expanded mask requirements.

My county with 70,000 folks, and 3 deaths. Give me a break. I fear a shark attack more than the Covid. jd

Hi JD, my county has 180,000 folks and 336 deaths. One healthy 49 year old farm boy three houses down from me. The shark is in my neighborhood. But I’ll still shoot with you if you let me wear my mask. Mike

 

[Brians356]

Hi JD, my county has 180,000 folks and 336 deaths. One healthy 49 year old farm boy three houses down from me. The shark is in my neighborhood. But I’ll still shoot with you if you let me wear my mask. Mike

My birth county, Nez Perce County, has had 24 deaths with only 40,400 population. But, half of them died in March in a single nursing home with the same owners as the infamous facility in Kirkland, WA.
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[ronsatspokane]

IIRC the Wisconsin Supreme Court pretty much threw out the Governor's ability to to institute any stay at home or other measures.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-wisconsin-idUSKBN22Q04H


Iowa has a Republican Governor and despite her orders we're still a hotspot.

Maybe we'll all get lucky and Wisconsin will return to sanity by getting rid of those incompetent and divisive leftists.

Iowa will be fine. Lock your doors, pull your blinds and assume the fetal position. We will tell you when it is safe to come out.

 

[antelopedundee]

Good question. Mask mandate has been in place since August 28. The surge here has largely taken off after it went into effect. Bars and restaurants are limited to 25 percent capacity. A challenge to that order was struck down. I'm not sure why you think state Republicans here are responsible when their hands are essentially tied by emergency orders.

They do control the Senate and the Assembly with apparently not a clue as to what to do. I guess just go with the flow. Unless a Super Majority is required it would seem that their hands aren't tied.

https://news.yahoo.com/judge-puts-wisconsin-capacity-limit-155724288.html

"Republican lawmakers are also suing to end the governor’s statewide mask mandate, arguing as the Tavern League has done in this lawsuit that the order exceeded Evers’ authority. A judge last week upheld the mask mandate, saying the Legislature has the power to strike it down if it wants to."

 

[antelopedundee]

Lets face it. You had no idea that it is a democratic party controlled state. I expect this kind of stupidity from a leftist so it is no surprise. Carry on in your ignorance son.

Only the Governor is a Dem and yes I know that. The Legislature is Pub controlled. You wanna see Pub stupid go look up FocxConned! I've never voted for a leftist for a position of authority for over 50 years so you don't know WTF you are talking about. I'm a GDI and vote for whomever the F I want to and don't kiss any party's ass.

 

[SGK]

FWIW - and I recognize few here subscribe to it but the quality of its reporting really is exemplary - the FT is running a series of articles under the umbrella "COVID: could the world have been spared?" that are really well written and researched. Part 1, published yesterday, covers the very early phase of the pandemic and the reaction, sluggish at first, of Chinese authorities and the issues involved therein. Part 2, covers a range of paradoxes in data. Fascinating. Part 3, published today, covers the early days of the virus in Europe and all the various mistakes made and why. The articles so far are worth a month's subscription. https://www.ft.com/content/efdadd97-aef5-47f1-91de-fe02c41a470a

The latest 'episode' of this series is fantastic. It's titled "How New York's Mis-Steps Let COVID19 Overwhelm the US". Brilliant reading.

 

[Brians356]

They do control the Senate and the Assembly with apparently not a clue as to what to do. I guess just go with the flow. Unless a Super Majority is required it would seem that their hands aren't tied.

https://news.yahoo.com/judge-puts-wisconsin-capacity-limit-155724288.html

"Republican lawmakers are also suing to end the governor’s statewide mask mandate, arguing as the Tavern League has done in this lawsuit that the order exceeded Evers’ authority. A judge last week upheld the mask mandate, saying the Legislature has the power to strike it down if it wants to."

That's useful information. But if you're really troubled by Wisconsin legislators' failure to counter the governor's executive actions, I suggest you read the state's Consitution. It likely requires a supermajority, since any governor naturally has veto power over legislation crossing his desk.
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[SGK]

An article published yesterday was just as good. It examined why the second wave of COVID appears less lethal. Of course some of this is due to increased testing, young people getting it etc. But importantly the article examines mortality rates within 28 days of hospitalization and how much they have fallen. In the months to August 31, 39% of people hospitalized in the UK for 28 days or more with COVID died. By Sept 1 that percentage fell to 27%. The improvement is even more stark in under 70 year olds. 28-day survival rose from 61% to 79% for those aged 50 to 69, and from 82% to 91% for those under 50, with improvements across a wide range of patients including those with additional chronic health problems. "Paul Hunter, professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, attributed about half of the improvement to the use of dexamethasone and other steroid medicines to reduce inflammation and damp down patients' overactive immune systems. 'The rest is probably down to the experience of doctors and nurses learning how to treat patients," he said. 'We see this in any epidemic, when medics flail around for a bit as they discover what works best.' "

"Peter Openshaw, professor of experimental medicine at Imperial College, London, has a similar explanation. 'People have learnt many little tricks which, when added together, make a big difference over time."

Bravo scientists, doctors and nurses! At least someone is learning as time progresses.

 

[D Coots]

How about having patients lying on their stomachs instead of their back?

 

[antelopedundee]

How about having patients lying on their stomachs instead of their back?

Was actually a smart move.

 

[SGK]

One of the many little things. Along with understanding better when to use a ventilator, blood thinning medication etc etc.

 

[JohnKielly]

Bravo scientists, doctors and nurses! At least someone is learning as time progresses.

They have to. It's been killing or disabling far too many of them.

 

[ronsatspokane]

Only the Governor is a Dem and yes I know that. The Legislature is Pub controlled. You wanna see Pub stupid go look up FocxConned! I've never voted for a leftist for a position of authority for over 50 years so you don't know WTF you are talking about. I'm a GDI and vote for whomever the F I want to and don't kiss any party's ass.

Don't know what a GDI is. Is that one of those 26 or 32 genders the left keeps telling us about? Do you require that a specific restroom be built to accommodate your needs?

 

[ronsatspokane]

GDI means God Damn Independent. Surprised that you don't know that, but then again maybe not. BTW you were born lucky because you can KMA and I can't.

Someone pointed out to me that GDI is an acronym for Gender Disoriented Individual. You should learn to express yourself using language. Acronym's are context dependent and can lead to gross misunderstanding. DYU?

 

[Brians356]

A virus, like the weather, cannot be "controlled". Give it up.
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Gosh, I guess I was wrong. The virus will throw in the towel if faced with a master at the helm:

"I'm going to shut down the virus, not the country."

Joe Biden
22 October 2020
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