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Alec Baldwin shot and killed someone on set

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I’m not pulling a trigger on a person assuming a “cold gun.” These are all unique incidents that must be fully investigated. I can remember clearly in 2006 Cheney intending to shoot his shotgun, hitting and causing a heart attack and lodging pellets in the neck and chest of his friend. Everyone agreed it was an accident and if Cheney were to have been jailed for that, it would be unjust. The Cheney example is clearest of when charges are not appropriate, except alcohol was consumed, but still.

They will get to the bottom of this.
 
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The Sheriff stated that the pistol in question was a single action chambered in 45 long colt.

One reporter asked the sheriff how he new it was indeed a live round. His answer was there was a dead person and a wounded person and the hospital did recover a lead bullet from the shoulder of the man wounded.
 
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Macropod said:
Wasn't her husband a lawyer? There may be some interesting background with cases he was working on.
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Alec Baldwin shooting victim was wife of Latham & Watkins lawyer @ Reuters, 10/23/21.


Oct 23 - The husband of Halyna Hutchins, the cinematographer who was fatally shot by actor Alec Baldwin with a prop gun on Thursday, is a corporate lawyer in Latham & Watkins' Los Angeles office.

Matt Hutchins joined Latham as an associate this year. Earlier he was an in-house lawyer at an entertainment company and practiced at Kirkland & Ellis and Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, according to his LinkedIn profile ...
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Looks like the Liberal media is trying to hang the entire blame on the armorer to protect their hero Mr Baldwin. I'm not saying she wasn't negligent but certainly she wasn't the only one.
What the liberal media won't be able to protect Mr Baldwin from is the army of lawyers lining up to sue the pants off him as both the one who pulled the trigger and the one who was co-producing the movie. He's the prime target as he's the one with the money.
 
One Eye Pete said:
Looks like the Liberal media is trying to hang the entire blame on the armorer to protect their hero Mr Baldwin. I'm not saying she wasn't negligent but certainly she wasn't the only one.
What the liberal media won't be able to protect Mr Baldwin from is the army of lawyers lining up to sue the pants off him as both the one who pulled the trigger and the one who was co-producing the movie. He's the prime target as he's the one with the money.
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They got insurance for that, itll just depend on the layers of coverage.
 
Mark W said:
Lets say I’m setting around a campfire with two buddies when one hands me a revolver and proclaims it unloaded. I point the revolver at the other friend and pull the trigger only to find out the gun was loaded after all. My gut tells me that I would be setting in a jail cell by now.
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Not exactly the same scenario, but I can tell you what happens when someone is crying to their buddy about how miserable life is and if he only had a gun, he would kill himself.

A pistol was laid on the table after the magazine was removed. A few minutes and probably a drink later, the pistol was picked up and the man shot himself. The "friend" forgot to clear the chamber, thought he laid out an unloaded pistol.

One to the graveyard, one to prison.
 
I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been for all presant, including Baldwin. No matter the outcome of this tragity, Baldwin will carry this event around for the rest of his life. In a way I feel sorry for him.

Negligent discharges happen, they have happened to tthe most experienced firearm afficinados. I would not expect a Baldwin type to have any thought about the safety or condition of any prop used other than to accept the authority of the person(s) clearing him to use the prop as intended.

Another way to look at it is :

Sceen calls for a car to be up on 4 jackstands, hood is open, an actor is to be under the vehicle as if they are working on it, another actor (Baldwin) is to walk up to the vehicle and lean on the fender looking into the engine compartment. Everyone involved in the sceen is assured the vehicle is properly supported. The vehicle slides off the jackstands and the actor is killed.

Baldwin is not a certified mechanic, probably couldn't work a floor jack let alone properly place the jackstans to support the vehicle. So the movie company employes a qualified person to raise the vehicle.

Thats my $0.002 worth.

Lets give my storry a happy endinng: The actor under the vehicle was Jane Fonda.
 
This is a good string. I liken this to the drunk, the bartender and the maker of the booze.
1. Drunk gets in his car and kills someone
2. Bartender served the last drink to the drunk
3. the distributor and maker of the booze get named in the wrongful death suit.

Distributor and maker produced a product with the intentions and stated purposes of being consumed but not excessively

Bartender didn't know the consumer was drunk after the consumption

The drunk is responsible for his actions regardless of the contributing factors. contributing factors will be part of the liability chain.

Baldwin 1, picked up a firearm 2, pointed it in an unsafe direction 3, cocked the S/A revolver and 4, pulled the trigger with disregard for the potential consequences.

The "I didn't know it was loaded" defense just doesn't apply here.
 
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Baldwin will carry this event around for the rest of his life. In a way I feel sorry for him.
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Maybe, but in what way?

Is he more concerned with how this affects himself or the victims?
Will he continue to have dealings in profiting from and supporting entertainment which promotes the use of firearms and violence?
Will he educate himself and promote that education to others in the use of firearms?
Or will he take on a greater activist role against firearms and try and appease his conscience that way when it wasn't the firearm or firearm manufacturer's fault - trying to shift blame?

If he took on a role promoting safe gun handling education and an activist role against Hollywood using weapons to profit from then I would give him credit. I don't see it happening though.

I would never assume someone with his well publicized background and activities to have a conscience based on what your average person considers normal. He may, but crediting him with it would not be automatic. His actions will show that.

However he processes the event in his own mind, he will never escape the fact that he has taken a life with a firearm. What that would mean to you or I may be a completely different thing with him.
 
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I would not expect a Baldwin type to have any thought about the safety or condition of any prop used other than to accept the authority of the person(s) clearing him to use the prop as intended.
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Not according to the law.
Guns are known to be dangerous. The question is whether Baldwin took appropriate caution when using a known dangerous thing.
 
RKS said:
However he processes the event in his own mind, he will never escape the fact that he has taken a life with a firearm. What that would mean to you or I may be a completely different thing with him.
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As much as I like to villify Baldwin, I think deep down inside he will regret not having inspected the fireatm prior to pulling the trigger. He will regret not obtaining the knowledge, interest , or habbit of properly clearing a firearm. He depended on others and they, along with him failed and a young lady is gone forever. He will forever want what everyone in his situation wants, that momnet before it went bang back.

No winners here
 
I dislike him as much as most but he is an actor. Nothing more. Nothing less. The expert is the one at fault unless it was sabotage on someone’s part. A gun is only dangerous in someone’s hands. It is an inanimate object. Edk
 
NM law is Involuntary Manslaughter. No proof of malice at this time, but very clear on the negligence on Baldwin's part, since he pulled the trigger. We will see if he gets charged.
 
Erk said:
I dislike him as much as most but he is an actor. Nothing more. Nothing less. The expert is the one at fault unless it was sabotage on someone’s part. A gun is only dangerous in someone’s hands. It is an inanimate object. Edk
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That's not totally true. Baldwin was not just an actor he is one of the producers. It has been reported ( if one can believe what is reported) that just days before this happened his stunt double had an incident where he thought a gun he was handling on the set was safe and it discharged two live rounds, fortunately no one was harmed. If you were in charge of the production (the producer) wouldn't you have halted production until this incident was investigated and corrective measures were taken so that it wouldn't happen again? If the person in charge doesn't see that corrective action is taken when something like this happens then they are just as responsible as the gun expert.
 
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