62 ELD-VT IN 8 TW?

[wolfman]

yesh, I wouldn't think so either, but surely someone has tried!

 

[urbanrifleman]

yesh, I wouldn't think so either, but surely someone has tried!

They have, and they shot like crap.

 

[jelenko]

The bullet is very long => 8 twist is min; 7 is better.

 

[urbanrifleman]

The bullet is very long => 8 twist is min; 7 is better.

7 twist will start to shoot poorly at about 3100 fps is my guess.

 

[searcher]

Mid summer I picked up a couple hundred of the 62gr ELD-VT's to try in a couple of 8 twist .223 Wylde AR's. I tried Varget, Benchmark and TAC going off load data on the Hodgdon site. I basically worked up to max load shown on the site and couldn't get anything to group better than 3" at 100 yards, more like 3.5". Are these bullets not really suited for the .223 AR platform? I was loading for mag length at 2.250". One of the AR's is a 20" Bear Creek. For a budget AR upper it actually shoots the 55 and 60 Vmax very well giving consistent 3/4" groups so I was surprised when I ended up with the shotgun pattern group with the ELD-VT's. Am I missing something here with these bullets or just luck of the draw and better to use a 7 twist?

I did get to run these bullets with about four or five powders out of my .22 Nosler bolt gun (1-8" tw.). I have gotten the groups down to just below 1/3" MOA, which is well enough for my varmint needs. Interestingly, the best loads came with the bullets set well off the lands. I'm going to try them in my 1-8" and 1-7" A/R's, just to see what they do. Will be interesting to see what the magazine length limitation does to them.

 

[jelenko]

I did get to run these bullets with about four or five powders out of my .22 Nosler bolt gun (1-8" tw.). I have gotten the groups down to just below 1/3" MOA, which is well enough for my varmint needs. Interestingly, the best loads came with the bullets set well off the lands. I'm going to try them in my 1-8" and 1-7" A/R's, just to see what they do. Will be interesting to see what the magazine length limitation does to them.

Please let us know results of mag length rounds. I tried it and got 6" groups at 100 yards.

 

[jthor]

Has anyone shot these in very cold conditions?
Every stability calculator I use shows these bullets are Marginally stable in cold temps with an 8 Twist and great with a 7 twist.

I've been slaughtering yotes with this bullet in a 7twist 223 bolt gun at 3250 FPS with a 26" barrel.
Shot 4 this past weekend in -5 degree temps in South Dakota.

I ask because I'm looking to go to a 22 GT in order to use a 20" barrel and squeeze out a tad more velocity, 3450.
Nothing wrong really with the 223, but it would be nice to shorten my barrel for faster shots and getting in and out of the truck or side by side with a suppressor doing sets. My only concern is blowing up the bullets, but it hasn't done it yet with the 223.

 

[RussellJ]

 

[urbanrifleman]

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That is very interesting. Very cool.

 

[f4l]

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What freebore is your barrel? Sorry if I missed it.

 

[RussellJ]

What freebore is your barrel? Sorry if I missed it.

Copied from the PTG invoice.
P5666403: 22 BR LAPUA FINISHER .2515NK .080FB 1°-30

Krieger barrel.