62 ELD-VT IN 8 TW?

[boltfluter]

Well. First try didn't go so well.
24" 1:8 twist Wylde, ~ 3100 fps. 2.350 COAL - jumping 170 thousandths. The boattail does protrude below the body/shoulder junction.
Two four shot groups.
1 group was 6" at 100 yards. The other group 4" and one shot not on the target. Assuming it made it there, it would be over 6" group. [Hard to call those groups].

I'm trying to develop a load to load from an ar15 mag with the front cut out.​

Any idea what is wrong? Does it turn out that the 62 eld vt is jump sensitive?

First thing I would do is make sure you really have an 8 twist barrel. Time for a cleaning rod test. Does not sound good. Let us know.
Paul

 

[Skunce]

My 1-8" 223AI shoots the 62 ELD-VT very well.

 

[jelenko]

First thing I would do is make sure you really have an 8 twist barrel. Time for a cleaning rod test. Does not sound good. Let us know.
Paul

It's a 24" ar15 barrel - so ~ the first 2 1/2 inches [do i have that right?] don't have rifling. And, it's supposed to be [is marked] 7.7. The barrel is from Kreiger.
The rod turns just under 3 times in the rifling => 21.5/2.95 = 7.3. [assuming there's 21.5" of rifling].

If it really is 1:7.3; the rpms would be real close to 300K - which might explain a missing hit.

 

[jelenko]

My 1-8" 223AI shoots the 62 ELD-VT very well.

What seating depth are you using? MV?

 

[Skunce]

What seating depth are you using? MV?

.009" off the lands shot the best for me. 3,240 fps using N133 out of a 26" barrel. None of the loads that I tested shot bad. All of the groups .006-.012" off the lands were under 1/2".

 

[jelenko]

Update.
I pulled the bullets on the last 4 rounds and reseated them at 20/1000's off the lands.
3 shots went into .440" at 100 yards.
Net: Looks like these don't jump long distances well.

That destroys my dream of using them for prone rapid - but they are fine sub for prone slow.

 

[Frankm]

Both my 9 twist and 8 twist 223 s with Saami chambers shoot them fine. 3100 fps. Loading 2.45 oal for the 9 twist and 2.43 oal for the 8 twist. Both touch the lands at 2.5” but not much bullet in the case neck that far out. ( didn’t measure BTO method on these two)

Thinking of trying a few groups in my 22-250 AI that’s got .050 FB and 8 twist but may screw them apart going 3500 fps or so ….??

 

[boltfluter]

Both my 9 twist and 8 twist 223 s with Saami chambers shoot them fine. 3100 fps. Loading 2.45 oal for the 9 twist and 2.43 oal for the 8 twist. Both touch the lands at 2.5” but not much bullet in the case neck that far out. ( didn’t measure BTO method on these two)

Thinking of trying a few groups in my 22-250 AI that’s got .050 FB and 8 twist but may screw them apart going 3500 fps or so ….??

Looking forward to your test results with the. 22-250AI. Hopefully they stay together for you.
Paul

 

[Frankm]

Paul, they cut nice clean holes at 100 yds out of my 22-250 AI. 26” barrel, 40 grs of N550 seated at 2.575” oal and 1/2” moa for 3 shots. It’s a stout load so work up to it but talk about a screamer…3592, 3597 and 3600 fps!! Shot one at 40.5 grs but bolt sticky and that extra 1/2 gr of powder sent it to 3701…. Obviously high pressure for 1/2 gr of powder to get another 100 fps.

I m perfectly fine at 3600 and 40 grs of N550. If more shooting proves it s pretty high pressure wise I can live with 39.5 grs and something around 3550 fps. Work up and those little V/T s are going to be a varmints worse nightmare!!

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Paul, they cut nice clean holes at 100 yds out of my 22-250 AI. 26” barrel, 40 grs of N550 seated at 2.575” oal and 1/2” moa for 3 shots. It’s a stout load so work up to it but talk about a screamer…3592, 3597 and 3600 fps!! Shot one at 40.5 grs but bolt sticky and that extra 1/2 gr of powder sent it to 3701…. Obviously high pressure for 1/2 gr of powder to get another 100 fps.

I m perfectly fine at 3600 and 40 grs of N550. If more shooting proves it s pretty high pressure wise I can live with 39.5 grs and something around 3550 fps. Work up and those little V/T s are going to be a varmints wors

Wow, that’s going to be impressive on a coyote.

 

[gaines0044]

Paul, they cut nice clean holes at 100 yds out of my 22-250 AI. 26” barrel, 40 grs of N550 seated at 2.575” oal and 1/2” moa for 3 shots. It’s a stout load so work up to it but talk about a screamer…3592, 3597 and 3600 fps!! Shot one at 40.5 grs but bolt sticky and that extra 1/2 gr of powder sent it to 3701…. Obviously high pressure for 1/2 gr of powder to get another 100 fps.

I m perfectly fine at 3600 and 40 grs of N550. If more shooting proves it s pretty high pressure wise I can live with 39.5 grs and something around 3550 fps. Work up and those little V/T s are going to be a varmints worse nightmare!!

I'm right there with you.. Shoot a 22cm 1:9 twist 22" douglas barrel- running 3550-3600 with varget. I finally took off my ATN digital scope to get a proper picture of precision.. 0.25"-0.6" all day with that ATN but never felt comfortably interpreting the results because they didnt tell much a story with their pattern. Knocking a 4" steel plate with that much energy and that quick just puts a smile on your face! happy shooting!

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

26" 22Creed with a little over 40.5gr Varget gets them to around 3850fps. Splits a predator in half

 

[dryhumor]

I just got two boxes of them this week. In between chores and grass cutting I had a chance to shoot a few.

VV N133, around 22.6-22.8 seems to be a good spot. Seating just at the lands, 2.482 COAL. Weight sorted Lapua brass. Kreiger HV 8 twist. Target is 160 yards.



223….

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

I'm thinking about trying the 62 vt in my 1/8 carbine with 223 wyde chamber. Going to use a standard mag and load them as a 73 gr eldm, since the 62 and 73 are exactly the same length and probably the same bullet, just less lead.

 

[22vartarg]

I’m trying to come up with a load to use the 62gr eld-vt in my 224 Valkyrie bolt action. Can’t find anything from Hornady on suggestions. Thinking of using CFE223.

 

[nr123]

I'm shooting CFE223 in my Tikka 22-250, with great results. It's a 1-8" twist.

 

[SLAYIN'SWEDE]

They shoot great out of my 18", 8 twist, 22 Creedmoor @ 3400. As others have said, keep them close to the lands and they'll shoot.

 

[searcher]

Well. First try didn't go so well.
24" 1:8 twist Wylde, ~ 3100 fps. 2.350 COAL - jumping 170 thousandths. The boattail does protrude below the body/shoulder junction.
Two four shot groups.
1 group was 6" at 100 yards. The other group 4" and one shot not on the target. Assuming it made it there, it would be over 6" group. [Hard to call those groups].

I'm trying to develop a load to load from an ar15 mag with the front cut out.​

Any idea what is wrong? Does it turn out that the 62 eld vt is jump sensitive?

Curious. What powder(s) did you use?

 

[jelenko]

Curious. What powder(s) did you use?

Just Shooters World Match.
Note: in a follow up post when seated 20/1000 off the lands, 4 rounds went into a .440 group.
My conclusion is the 62 2ld vt doesn't like to jump long distances.

 

[searcher]

Just Shooters World Match.
Note: in a follow up post when seated 20/1000 off the lands, 4 rounds went into a .440 group.
My conclusion is the 62 2ld vt doesn't like to jump long distances.

Good to know. I'll be running these (hopefully) in a bolt gun (22 Nosler) mostly, which I hope to get back from my gunsmith shortly with two fresh barrels. If those tubes don't like the VT, will try in a 1-7" A/R. Thanks for posting.