10mm Auto and Blue Dot ?

[Alaska Bush Man]

I have a Glock 20 with KKM barrel standard length and 22 pound spring

My Components ;

Blue Dot powder
CCI 300 Large Pistol Primers
Starline Brass
200 Gr XTP Hornady
Lee Factory Crimp Die

I would like to get to the Norma original load of 1200 FPS with Blue Dot any suggestions?

 

[D-4297]

Maybe try 2400 , instead ? I load my Glock G22 , 40 with 2400 behind a 185 JHP . Just slightly lower than a 10mm load , and it works very well .

 

[Adam in WI]

Look up Accurate #9. If I remember right, that was the stuff

 

[kenhwind]

Get a Hornady reloading manual, they have Data for Bluedot listed.
My advice is to use the components as listed as least to primer and powder. I only took a quick look and didn't see what brass or primer Hornady used, probably Hornady brass.

I made up a .38 Super load with titeGroup which I have used before, Starline brass, WSP, but used R-P brass and CCI SP and it flattened out the primers.

 

[Alaska Bush Man]

All manuals are watered down FBI loads I need real 10mm data !
The powder charges don’t match the velocities.
As the Hornady Manual 9.4 Blue Dot Max in 10mm with 200gr is not even close to being max. It’s a hot 40 SW load at best in G20.

 

[ronemus]

You could get 1100 fps with Blue Dot and 200 gr jacketed bullets, but 1200 is well beyond a maximum load.

 

[Ray123]

10 mm Auto 200 gr 5" barrel. 14.0 gr AA #9 = 1216 fps max.
Or 10.0 gr Blue Dot = 1159 fps Max load.
Or, 12.0 gr 2400/ 1152 fps mag primers with this powder a Max load.
Get your chronograph and work up loads with these powders...the fastest I've found...work up carefully.

 

[kenhwind]

All manuals are watered down FBI loads I need real 10mm data !

Are they?

 

[Rsadams]

Are they?

Most cheap practice ammo you buy at like academy is basically.40 cal.... If you want real full power ten mil... You will have to look at a few manufacturers...

 

[6bra1k]

so another vote for acc #9. blue dot was too flaky to measure well.
i went with a lighter bullet going faster,,,
how long have i been around 10mm ???? i have some of the "165"(actually 170 ) norma bullets
maybe power pistol

 

[kenhwind]

Are they?

Most cheap practice ammo you buy at like academy is basically.40 cal.... If you want real full power ten mil... You will have to look at a few manufacturers...

I found several loads rated @ around or slightly over 1200 fps without even trying, now granted they weren't with a 200 grain XTP or Bluedot.
Yes, if you want 10mm ballistics you need to buy premium ammo.
I chronographed some Winchester Silvertip 10mm some years back and it actually recorded what it was advertised at.

 

[Clark]

I cannot get enough Blue Dot to fit in 10mm under a 200 gr bullet.
Max published 8.9 gr
Max fit 13.25 gr.... still wimpy in Bar Sto barrel

For max power I use 800X, but it does not meter. Max practical is Power Pistol

 

[Alaska Bush Man]

No 1200 fps is the original load for the 10mm in 5” by Norma .
As for metering
I don’t know why reloaders use those RCBS uniflow type powder measures never could get mine to measure the same load twice after checking on 10-10 scale . Went to the RCBS Chargemaster and kept my 10-10 scale as backup. Works great !
This G20 is for bear protection 200 Gr XTP not humans.
For humans 170gr Nosler HP
Yes 800x is a great powder in 10mm used it for years heard they stop making it and Yes weighted every round on my 10-10 scale
Yes those Silvertips were nice in my 1006 back in the early 90’s. WInchester has watered down everything since.

 

[Hino895]

800X works very well in my 1911 10mm.
A powder measure won’t work you need to use a scale or electronic measure as it’s like measuring corn flakes.

 

[Triple BB]

VV has a couple powders with load data for the 10 that are at 1200 fps for a 200 grn bullet. I picked up 4 lbs if 3N38 to try after I burn through some factory ammo…

 

[Zero333]

If you're really devoted to using Blue Dot I have a PM incoming with some data. Might be useful or maybe not, but the more data you have the better.

 

[Alaska Bush Man]

It’s all I have Blue Dot and can get ! With BD 200gr XTP looks like I am dead on !
Thank you very much !
I have had a pound BD for several years and thought I would put it to use. I ran out of 800x and unable to find anymore. I heard they are going stop production of 800X. My 9.4 load of 800x was excellent with the 200gr XTP.

 

[AndrewB]

I use Longshot in my 10mm's with good results.

 

[Alaska Bush Man]

I use Longshot in my 10mm's with good results.

We are powder poor up here. I used up all my 800x and have 1 pound of BD that been on shelf for several years untouched. It’s the only pistol powder I have. Stores are empty.

 

[Alaska Bush Man]

so another vote for acc #9. blue dot was too flaky to measure well.
i went with a lighter bullet going faster,,,
how long have i been around 10mm ???? i have some of the "165"(actually 170 ) norma bullets
maybe power pistol

Norma bullets 170gr I like ! I do have a box of Nosler 170gr HP very close !
You get these up too real 10mm Vel like Norma did and their lethal. Performance kinda like a good 357 mag and 125gr. I use a RCBS Chargemaster on every load works great with 800x type powder. Me I sold Crockett his 1006 for Miami vice been with the 10mm since the beginning 1006 / Kimber / now on my 3rd Glock G20 since introduction . My eyes are going bad now just point and hope I hit something !