Home Defense

[CJ6]

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These may be fine when used outside but in confined space such as a home it exposes the home owner to the same substance.

 

[kochie]

Go to a IDPA or USPSA Match at your local club, it's about $20 a match My skills are a thousand times better even after just a few matches Plus I found I like it! it's fun!

the wife lol

 

[Rubberduckie]

I live at the end of a half-mile long driveway, It's rough and rocky and can't be driven on without making some noise. There are two gates on the way up to the house. They have chains and both squeak; loudly. After the intruder gets past all this, he has to negotiate the wheelbarrow I left in front of the steps and the steps themselves, which, I'll confess, need some work. He has to do this in the dark since we have no yard light. Once on the porch, there is the dog dish, porch furniture, a pair of boots, fishing rod and other assorted items to avoid. Once at the door, our intruder is home free. The door is never locked.
Upon opening the door, he will awaken the cat, which will start squalling loudly, and the dog. The dog is an Airdale which we cannot break of the habit of jumping up and placing her paws on the guest's stomach. This is almost certain to elicit some sort of vocal response from the intruder, who will soon experience a shilelleagh to the forehead. A few follow-up applications of the stick should do the trick. Then it is a simple matter to fire up the Kubota mini excavator and place the visitor under a newly planted tree, which should do real well, given the nutrients provided buy our intruder. His vehicle will be left on a nearby reserve with the keys in it.
That pretty well describes my home security system, I'm comfortable with it. As I get older, I may have to substitute a shotgun for the stick, but I'm not there yet. WH

This is the type of security system i wish to have.

 

[danny]

I have seen a lot of discussions about home defense. They mainly talk about caliber size, type of gun, what is supposedly the best gun and so on.

In my opinion, these discussions that you speak of are nothing more than guys hoping that they can get placed in a situation where they can legally be able to "smoke" someone, and I'm NOT "just saying".

Danny

 

[outasite`08]

In my opinion, these discussions that you speak of are nothing more than guys hoping that they can get placed in a situation where they can legally be able to "smoke" someone, and I'm NOT "just saying".

Danny

Danny, I prayer I will never be in a position to end someones` life or maim them for life. But, I will not let someone harm me or my family if I can. I prepare for the worse and pray for the best. Anyone that wants this encounter has never been in a violent confrontation. Jeff

 

[joshb]

Ditto!
It’s just one thing to plan for when protecting yourself and your family. Here, we don’t talk about ALL the other things RESPONSIBLE people plan for, like savings and investments, insurance, children’s educational needs, parental care, etc.
In my lifetime, I have been in “situations” where I needed a gun and was damn glad to have it. Luckily, I never had to shoot someone. My possession of a firearm was enough to stop the aggression. I hope I never have to use a firearm against another person, but hope is not a plan!

 

[qldreloader]

Here in Australia I am faced with a dilemma which leaves me wondering if my best interests are really at the forefront of our legislators (sarcasm alert).

The dilemma is that I can't have any "weapons" for home defence despite record breaking crime but I am encouraged to have a fire extinguisher despite the rarity of fires.

Perhaps I need to listen to some more political propaganda and recommit myself to the assurity of being in good hands.

On another note. 17 or 20° edge on machete for pruning use in the garden.

 

[outasite`08]

Ditto!
It’s just one thing to plan for when protecting yourself and your family. Here, we don’t talk about ALL the other things RESPONSIBLE people plan for, like savings and investments, insurance, children’s educational needs, parental care, etc.
In my lifetime, I have been in “situations” where I needed a gun and was damn glad to have it. Luckily, I never had to shoot someone. My possession of a firearm was enough to stop the aggression. I hope I never have to use a firearm against another person, but hope is not a plan!

Amen!

 

[danny]

Here in Australia I am faced with a dilemma which leaves me wondering if my best interests are really at the forefront of our legislators (sarcasm alert).

The dilemma is that I can't have any "weapons" for home defence despite record breaking crime but I am encouraged to have a fire extinguisher despite the rarity of fires.

Perhaps I need to listen to some more political propaganda and recommit myself to the assurity of being in good hands.

On another note. 17 or 20° edge on machete for pruning use in the garden.

You are supposed to help them load your stuff, I thought.



Danny

 

[qldreloader]

You are supposed to help them load your stuff, I thought.



Danny

Of course. After ensuring everyone knows each other's pronouns.

Assuming in Ohio the offenders pronouns revert to "was" and "were"?

 

[M-61]

Perhaps I need to listen to some more political propaganda and recommit myself to the assurity of being in good hands.

Do you mean relying on some agency, government or local to help you?
For me, they succeeded in leading me into harms way. I just didn’t know any better but that was a real long time ago.
Fool me once….

 

[Jonnyofalltrades]

This is the type of security system i wish to have.

Yeah.
The "3 S" security system.
Shilelleagh, shovel, and shut up.

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

These may be fine when used outside but in confined space such as a home it exposes the home owner to the same substance.

Was al the rage here a while ago, if you want to DIE its the way to go IMO.

 

[ISS]

IMHO, the best training is in the military. Airborne Ranger School*, 8 months long was my choice; followed by three tours of duty in RVN. When I went for my Concealed Weapons License here in Idaho, they issued mine on the spot.
A Malinois or Giant Airedale (our K-9 Officers here have choice) is a reliable first option, or backup.

Idaho has had the Castle Doctrine for a couple decades now. As well, a perp cannot sue for the harm he/she incurs. Another law in Idaho says criminals can't profit from their illegal actions.

ISS

* Ranger Motto: "...kill them all, God will sort them out...".

 

[Richard Jones]

So my bud went to a training/class specifically for this scenario: You and your family are barricaded in your bedroom, you're armed, and a bad guy/gal is outside your door, telling you that they are coming in so as to rob you and hurt you, etc.... This was all done in a shoot house with sims. (My friend is an M class USPSA shooter, just to establish pistol handling skills.)

He told me that 50% of the time, you, the family member, would get smoked. 50% of the time, regardless of how it played. That number stayed pretty close throughout the entire group. Firing through the door/walls is not an option, as you could never be sure if the bad guy got hit or not..........or maybe there was more than one. (not saying I wouldn't try/do that, just that it's not very decisive) 50% of the time. Made me rethink a lot of things that I thought were solid.

 

[goodbadugly]

RLTW......GARY OWEN........

 

[qldreloader]

So my bud went to a training/class specifically for this scenario: You and your family are barricaded in your bedroom, you're armed, and a bad guy/gal is outside your door, telling you that they are coming in so as to rob you and hurt you, etc.... This was all done in a shoot house with sims. (My friend is an M class USPSA shooter, just to establish pistol handling skills.)

He told me that 50% of the time, you, the family member, would get smoked. 50% of the time, regardless of how it played. That number stayed pretty close throughout the entire group. Firing through the door/walls is not an option, as you could never be sure if the bad guy got hit or not..........or maybe there was more than one. (not saying I wouldn't try/do that, just that it's not very decisive) 50% of the time. Made me rethink a lot of things that I thought were solid.

I've been in a few Sims training exercises and found that the properly barricaded party will almost always prevail. It's when you go clearing the house you get shot.

 

[Knotwild]

The dilemma is that I can't have any "weapons" for home defence despite record breaking crime but I am encouraged to have a fire extinguisher despite the rarity of fires.

I saw a physical confrontation ended with a fire extinguisher. It was awesome and I would rather had it than a Pistol.

All I heard fom the perpetrator was "I'm blind, I'm blind, get me to the hospital!".

It was fantastic I telly you!

 

[R.Morehouse]

A 145lb Kangal Shepherd is a good deterrent to the home invader. Their bark is as big as their bite.....

 

[gpoldblue]

A 145lb Kangal Shepherd is a good deterrent to the home invader. Their bark is as big as their bite.....

But...are they bullet proof?