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New hornady ELD-VT bullets

As Al mentioned, it will take at least a 7.5 twist to get to a 1.5 SG
to stabilize the 22 cal 62g VT's
And if you run them over 3300-3400 fps you'll be pushing them to explode.
That's the biggest problem with a long high BC small dia. bullet.
You need a fast twist to stabilize them, but then you run the risk of over spinning them.
Unless Hornady has found a way to improve the jackets from over spinning failure.
 
It'll be interesting to see how it goes with these new ELD-VT bullets.

Hopefully Hornady will have the recommended twist rate plastered all over the box on these things because if they don't I can see a lot of folks assuming they can shoot them in their rifles because they shoot a similar weight bullet of a different brand or type and not realizing these things require much faster twist barrels and when they don't shoot well but their other similar weight bullets do you can almost hear the comments now about how Hornady's new bullets suck and don't shoot.

I don't think I have anything with enough twist to shoot these new 62gr except maybe an AR. I've got a Broughton 5r 8tw on a 6-06AI that would probably launch the 80's somewhere up around 3800 but that'd put the bullet RPM over 340,000 and I don't see anything good coming from that.
 
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Ranger188 said:
As Al mentioned, it will take at least a 7.5 twist to get to a 1.5 SG
to stabilize the 22 cal 62g VT's
And if you run them over 3300-3400 fps you'll be pushing them to explode.
That's the biggest problem with a long high BC small dia. bullet.
You need a fast twist to stabilize them, but then you run the risk of over spinning them.
Unless Hornady has found a way to improve the jackets from over spinning failure.
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When will these be for sale I have a 7 twist 22-250AI that these sound perfect for…..
 
Coyotefurharvester said:
224 62 gr -- It appears "engineers" took the 73 gr eld m, removed 11 grs of lead of the top of the core. This shifted the weight rearward and most likely made the bullet more explosive. So less lead(cheaper especially by the million). Same machines, same jacket, less lead(air is free). Charge more for the "new" product that costs less to produce.
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The new American way for about everything!
 
That is the American way, less weight and more money. 1 lb of bacon now weighs 12 oz.

I'm anxious to do a 22-250Ai with the new bullet in mind. Also a couple of other AI rifles with the new bullets in other calibers if they work out.
 
Does anyone have any insight or speculation on if they will product a 20cal version of an eld-vt?

I think a 45-50gr .204 with a G1 bc near or over .350 would be super.
 
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Dale264 said:
Does anyone have any insight or speculation on if they will product a 20cal version of an eld-vt?

I think a 45-50gr .204 with a G1 bc near or over .350 would be super.
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I wonder that too. Id like to see something in 17 and 20. The thing is no factory rifles have the twist that would be needed. Maybe they will release new cartridges with the needed twist and freebore in factory guns. I also think this might inspire sierra and or Berger to develope projectiles to compete with Hornady.
 
AlNyhus said:
While not a big Hornady fan, with a good barrel with an appropriate free bore length and diameter, the 87 VMax has shot well in every 6mm chambering I've tried them in. Twist rates from 9 to 12 and chambers in 243W, 243 AI, 6MM Jet, 6MM Rem., 6 Ackley and a couple of 6BR's.

In an unknown barrel, the Nosler 70 BTip and the 87 VMax are the first two non-BR quality bullets I try.

Good shootin'. :) -Al
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So true. My Remington action, Kreiger barrel rifle in 6BR would only agg .288 for 4 (5) shot groups with the Hornady 87 V-max. Many coyotes and rockchucks were not happy about this. One of the finest factory bullets I have ever had the pleasure of using.
Paul
 
Would the balance point of these bullets have an affect on the twist rate as well as the length? Looks like the balance point or
CG of these bullets would be a bit further back than standard match bullet of the same length.
 
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