NEW Bat action coming out today

[Dave Way]

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I hope you break the one inch barrier Tom. You certainly deserve to with all the work you put into it. At least Montana has good weather for testing!

Dave.

 

[dkhunt14]

If we are talking about harmonics, doesn’t the bedding material and also the stock infill play into the equation.

Mayne unless your talking heavy gun glued in a block. That pretty much takes alot of the action out of the picture. Matt

 

[dkhunt14]

Ultimately the vibrations are transferred to many different materials. I believe that load development, quality gunsmiths, exceptional buttets and the grace of Mother Nature are far more revenant.

What are buttets, is that what holds your pants up? Matt

 

[3Ackleys]

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Tom
What is the fan for? I know it isn't that much hotter up there than Butte is LOL.
And are you testing firing pins?

 

[dkhunt14]

Viper?

Stillers version of a Panda. Matt

 

[tom]

Tom
What is the fan for? I know it isn't that much hotter up there than Butte is LOL.
And are you testing firing pins?

Blows the barrel heat clear of the optic as a run shots.

Tom

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Well, I have my hands on a dozen of these things. I think guys will really like them. The Vampire actions have been super slick. These are the same way. The anodize and teflon coating makes the bolt slicker than the steel actions. These will be fast running actions.

 

[LVLAaron]

How long would you expect the teflon to last?


Can they be ordered with bolt threads? Or are they glue in only?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

They come with threads standard. So far I have yet to see it wear though, doubt I will. Theres hard anodize under it. That will never wear through.

 

[LVLAaron]

I've been considering a new FTR build... at 2lbs I can make the alum version work.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I will be opening up the ID of some bolts to reduce the weight even more and make them faster. There is no guidance in the middle of the bolt. You wont need the speed in tr but you can cut even more weight.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Nuevos do feel a little different at first. But if you give them some time you will like them. They just feel different. But the design does contribute to accuracy in my opinion.

 

[tom]

Nuevos do feel a little different at first. But if you give them some time you will like them. They just feel different. But the design does contribute to accuracy in my opinion.

Agreed, I almost hated it at first. Now my B feels like the foreign one these days.

Tom

 

[sparker]

Everyone shoots for different reasons. Some are just there for fun and are happy to just not come in last. Some are there to win, others are after records, ext. My interest is in building a better rifle. I have worked on every aspect of these things for years trying to get the most out of every component. Actions, triggers, scopes, stocks, barrel specs, my own techniques in the build process, ext. Its been a worth while pursuit. The rifles track records are the proof. This is just one more of those things, I hope it improves the agg records.

A good action is a good action. What makes one good is actually pretty basic stuff. I have built exceptional rifles on a few different manufactures. If they are right they will shoot. I doubt I will ever be 100% satisfied with anything.

Your concluding remark suggests that there is no perfect action, even in the mind.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

That's a fact. But I will still try so long as they want to play.

 

[sparker]

Well, that further suggests that there are many areas for improvement over current designs. I am intrigued as I’m sure many others are to hear what you would consider to be the areas most needing improvement or those that are likely to result in better performance.

 

[jackieschmidt]

I have two Neuvo’s, and I can say that while they are great actions, I can’t testify tha either shoots sny better than my two vintage Farleys from the mid 1990’s.

I tend to agree with Alex on the aluminum body actions. I tell new shooters that the very best action right out of the box is the Stolle Panda.

You would be hard pressed to find one that doesn’t shoot Well.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Yep, so long as a Panda has enough firing pin fall they seem to shoot. That doent mean they dont have many of the same issues you seen in any action, they just seem to be less sensitive to those issues. Thats why I feel the aluminum is helping.

 

[sparker]

So, what issues are solved in this new action from BAT that seem to plague others?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

If I understand you correctly, none. Its just aluminum, which some of us believe to agg better. It will have the same production issues as all actions I have seen. However, all Neuvos you buy from Bullet Central are gone though by them. They clean up the ignition on them. I still do my own when I order them, but if you buy a Neuvo from BC it will have the cleanest ignition you can get without going through one.