NEW Bat action coming out today

[sparker]

Thank you sir.

 

[rel7mm]

Or you could just use the real deal and buy a Panda

 

[ohiofarmer]

Or you could just you the real deal and buy a Panda

Well that’s as clear as mud…

 

[Carl S]

I have two Neuvo’s, and I can say that while they are great actions, I can’t testify tha either shoots sny better than my two vintage Farleys from the mid 1990’s.

I tend to agree with Alex on the aluminum body actions. I tell new shooters that the very best action right out of the box is the Stolle Panda.

You would be hard pressed to find one that doesn’t shoot Well.

Aluminium soakes up vibration better than steel.tap a block of Aluminium and a block of steel and listen to which one rings the loudest and longest.all that Aluminium to soak up harmonics and vibration and the large bedding area make the panda's had to beat...excellent design.

 

[JimPag]

After owning and shooting more different brands of rifle actions than one man ought to IMO the brand of action makes little difference. What it comes down to, it's the barrels and bullets that make the rifle shoot, not which brand of action or material that the barrel is screwed onto plus the nut behind the trigger has to be proficient.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Jim, I agree for the most part. But once you know how to tune an action to what it should be you can make most any of them competitive. A good action is a good action, period. So thats my starting place. The point of this is to take it a step further. I can tune any of them to shoot. Im looking for more. Doing this full time I have a pretty good data set on what actions perform in what ways and how they differ. The equipment is a lot more important than a lot seem to think. I have said it many times, the action is the most important part of the rifle.

 

[Jud96]

I’m curious on these BAT aluminum actions with steel inserts. Are the inserts flush with the action face? I’m just trying to wrap my head around how they machine it haha. I’m impressed by these and would like to see one for myself. I can appreciate awesome new actions and gun parts even from “competitors” in the industry. Good stuff

 

[Alex Wheeler]

The insert is close to flush. They are machined separately. They are installed in the action with an interference fit. I dont know the exact process. I didnt ask. In a Kelbly the insert is installed and then then at least some of the final machine work like broaching the lug wats is done. In the Bat, all the work is done before the insert is installed.

 

[Jud96]

The insert is close to flush. They are machined separately. They are installed in the action with an interference fit. I dont know the exact process. I didnt ask. In a Kelbly the insert is installed and then then at least some of the final machine work like broaching the lug wats is done. In the Bat, all the work is done before the insert is installed.

Very interesting. I was thinking they would have to be made separate then joined together after being machined and coated separately. If the faces were square to one another I was going to be really surprised, that would be very difficult to do repeatably when both parts are machined separately. I would think the sleeve would be below flush by a few thousandths or so and the barrel would torque against it.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

The ones I have checked have been about as square as a steel action. I was impressed. Thats not to say that any of them are perfect.

 

[Jud96]

Yes that’s really impressive. I was thinking if the faces were flush, I would think that would be very, very difficult to do repeatedly. The guys at BAT are impressive though, no doubt.

 

[D Coots]

Aluminium soakes up vibration better than steel.tap a block of Aluminium and a block of steel and listen to which one rings the loudest and longest.all that Aluminium to soak up harmonics and vibration and the large bedding area make the panda's had to beat...excellent design.

Never been to a match to see which sounds the best....

Kinda like looking at boobs and wondering which set would feel the best..

I'd have to test for myself...and I have.

Later
Dave

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Well, up until this point a real test just was not possible. Now we can take a steel body and an aluminum body Nuevo and shoot them both with the same bolt and barrel.

 

[D Coots]

They've been out for awhile. I guess that's the real test.

The only way innovation happens is by trying it in competition.

Later
Dave

 

[Carl S]

They've been out for awhile. I guess that's the real test.

The only way innovation happens is by trying it in competition.

Later
Dave

Interesting to see if you can tell the difference.

 

[tom]

To my knowledge the first match ever shot with one was today at deep creek. Nick Howlett shot what I think is a personal best....that didn't take long!



Tom

 

[BoydAllen]

Jackie, I was doing a lot of work to Pandas. They knew exactly what I was doing. They sent them with the firing pin hole not drilled or assembled, no extractor cut or flutes. The problem with screw in shrouds is if those threads are not straight its very hard to correct. I have run into that issue more with threads than non threaded shrouds. Its all about sample size. After you go through hundreds of actions I guess you find all the issues. Its not common but it does happen. But to be very fair, and to piss everyone off equally I'll say this.... EVERY action made needs work to make it as good as it can be. Even the action Im talking about in this thread will not leave my shop the same as it came in.

I get the other stuff, but why do you drill your own firing pin hole?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Because I cut them to the length I wanted then drilled the hole.

 

[BoydAllen]

Because I cut them to the length I wanted then drilled the hole.

I'm sorry, cut what to the length that you want?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

The firing pin