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.30-06 F-Class Rifle

I have not. I have read that the twist rate for them is 1:9. However, i personally think that Sierra sometimes exaggerates their bc of their bullets. I have shot the 195 TMKs and also the 195 Hornady ELD M's. The pic attached was from the 195 ELD M's at 300 yrds.View attachment 1127762
Sierra has in the past had some inflated numbers for BCs. I can say that the numbers for there current line up is very close today. At least several of the TMKs I shoot myself.
 
My thing is that when you get used to shooting one particular bullet that works very well for you, and you grow used to using it, it is hard to change and break that process. I have shot the regular 190 SMKs and they do well....but not as precise as the Berger 190s

I have experimented with Shooters World's version of their 4350 powder. I can tell you that it takes about 1.5 to 2 grains more to get the same velocities as IMR4350.

IMR4350 has been the most consistent for me and actually the most precise, while H4350 comes in at a close 2nd. I know that will leave some people shaking their heads because H4350 is supposed to be just like Mannah from Heaven. .... however, IMR4350 has never let me down.
 
My thing is that when you get used to shooting one particular bullet that works very well for you, and you grow used to using it, it is hard to change and break that process. I have shot the regular 190 SMKs and they do well....but not as precise as the Berger 190s

I have experimented with Shooters World's version of their 4350 powder. I can tell you that it takes about 1.5 to 2 grains more to get the same velocities as IMR4350.

IMR4350 has been the most consistent for me and actually the most precise, while H4350 comes in at a close 2nd. I know that will leave some people shaking their heads because H4350 is supposed to be just like Mannah from Heaven. .... however, IMR4350 has never let me down.
No reason to leave a great load to search for another. I've done it and wasted time only going back to my old faithful. I think it's just something us shooters do. Keep looking for better when the best is already in front of us.
 
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My thing is that when you get used to shooting one particular bullet that works very well for you, and you grow used to using it, it is hard to change and break that process. I have shot the regular 190 SMKs and they do well....but not as precise as the Berger 190s

I have experimented with Shooters World's version of their 4350 powder. I can tell you that it takes about 1.5 to 2 grains more to get the same velocities as IMR4350.

IMR4350 has been the most consistent for me and actually the most precise, while H4350 comes in at a close 2nd. I know that will leave some people shaking their heads because H4350 is supposed to be just like Mannah from Heaven. .... however, IMR4350 has never let me down.
IMR4350 has been the most consistently accurate powder in my 22BR, my 6.5 Creedmoor, and across a couple 30-06s. Seriously underrated powder and I've had no tuning or temp sensitivity issues with it because the accurate nodes are always wide, so a little speed up or slow down doesn't knock it out of tune.
 
My thing is that when you get used to shooting one particular bullet that works very well for you, and you grow used to using it, it is hard to change and break that process. I have shot the regular 190 SMKs and they do well....but not as precise as the Berger 190s

I have experimented with Shooters World's version of their 4350 powder. I can tell you that it takes about 1.5 to 2 grains more to get the same velocities as IMR4350.

IMR4350 has been the most consistent for me and actually the most precise, while H4350 comes in at a close 2nd. I know that will leave some people shaking their heads because H4350 is supposed to be just like Mannah from Heaven. .... however, IMR4350 has never let me down.
How is the accuracy with the Shooter's World 4350 ? I have some and have yet to try it . I noticed on the SW site they said it is the slowest of all the 4350s ,wondering if you have tried H 4350 and IMR 4350 and if so you have found the same ? Thanks
 
How is the accuracy with the Shooter's World 4350 ? I have some and have yet to try it . I noticed on the SW site they said it is the slowest of all the 4350s ,wondering if you have tried H 4350 and IMR 4350 and if so you have found the same ? Thanks

I have tried all four 4350's...that being IMR, Hogdon, Shooters World and AA.

For my rifle, IMR4350 gives me the best performance. H4350 comes in at a close 2nd, Shooters World is accurate powder. But as I stated before, it takes about 1.5 to 2 grains more to get the same velocity as IMR4350. I have not given up on it though. Accurate Arms powder gave me the worst accuracy out of all four. Its dirty too.

Maybe other have had different success. I am shooting my last F class match this Weds for the league that I am involved in. Inam looking forward to it it because I know the rifle will hammer unless I screw up.
 
You Sir are a RACIST!! Admit it and move on.;):D
Pretty sad when you have to choose your words so as NOT to offend someone. Might just as well keep your mouth shut and not say ANYTHING.:mad:
Where's that doll so you can point and show me just where you were offended/hurt?:rolleyes:

Give me a break!!! Can we not even discuss something where there is absolutely NO racism stated or implied, & a large percentage of comments attack the name??!!!! Country is further down the road to Hell than I had hoped!! My Labrador Retriever named Duchess died a few years ago. Guess what, all you whiners; she was a Black Bitch. a lot of you need to get a life!!
 
I have tried all four 4350's...that being IMR, Hogdon, Shooters World and AA.

For my rifle, IMR4350 gives me the best performance. H4350 comes in at a close 2nd, Shooters World is accurate powder. But as I stated before, it takes about 1.5 to 2 grains more to get the same velocity as IMR4350. I have not given up on it though. Accurate Arms powder gave me the worst accuracy out of all four. Its dirty too.

Maybe other have had different success. I am shooting my last F class match this Weds for the league that I am involved in. Inam looking forward to it it because I know the rifle will hammer unless I screw up.
Thanks for the info and good luck at your first match .
 
You sound like you know your rifle (and your load) inside and out.

I would bet that there are a dozen of us right now who are seriously rethinking the old 30-06. There's a lot of long actions out there begging for rebirth. jd
I'm one for sure. I have an old Rem 700 in 06 that I haven't used in some years. Thinking of rekindling that relationship. I put time into shooting 185 VLDs in my 308. They shot fabulous but pretty slow. I think the 06 would run them another 150 fps faster easily and with less drop and better wind hold.
 
Yes and what about your offending fat people? You definitely need sensitivity training.
I'm not offended, and I'm a fat bastarad.
I have not. I have read that the twist rate for them is 1:9. However, i personally think that Sierra sometimes exaggerates their bc of their bullets. I have shot the 195 TMKs and also the 195 Hornady ELD M's. The pic attached was from the 195 ELD M's at 300 yrds.View attachment 1127762
Nice shooting rifle.
 
I'm not offended, and I'm a fat bastarad.

Nice shooting rifle.
You got to add bald to my description and I resemble that remark. If the liberals ever figure out the truth,well, they just can't handle the truth. The statement "it is what it is" is the simple truth.
I have a long action that I have seriously been considering doing a Remage on. I was thinking about a 6 Creedmoor but my FTR rifle is .308 and the 30/06 will push the 185 Bergers pretty good. Only thing is I have titanium fuseing my neck and recoil is getting to where it bothers it. That's the reason for thinking about the 6 Creedmoor . I like .30 cal cartridges but those little 6's have a lot going for them,specially less recoil. Kinda like a liberal in I just can't decide anything anymore.
 
You got to add bald to my description and I resemble that remark. If the liberals ever figure out the truth,well, they just can't handle the truth. The statement "it is what it is" is the simple truth.
I have a long action that I have seriously been considering doing a Remage on. I was thinking about a 6 Creedmoor but my FTR rifle is .308 and the 30/06 will push the 185 Bergers pretty good. Only thing is I have titanium fuseing my neck and recoil is getting to where it bothers it. That's the reason for thinking about the 6 Creedmoor . I like .30 cal cartridges but those little 6's have a lot going for them,specially less recoil. Kinda like a liberal in I just can't decide anything anymore.
Except you have good reason. The 6-6.5s are fabulous rounds with much less recoil. Brakes are awful helpful and not bad in the medium 30 cartridges. Nobody around you likes them while your shooting but saves alot of beating
 
You got to add bald to my description and I resemble that remark. If the liberals ever figure out the truth,well, they just can't handle the truth. The statement "it is what it is" is the simple truth.
I have a long action that I have seriously been considering doing a Remage on. I was thinking about a 6 Creedmoor but my FTR rifle is .308 and the 30/06 will push the 185 Bergers pretty good. Only thing is I have titanium fuseing my neck and recoil is getting to where it bothers it. That's the reason for thinking about the 6 Creedmoor . I like .30 cal cartridges but those little 6's have a lot going for them,specially less recoil. Kinda like a liberal in I just can't decide anything anymore.


What has saved my shoulder is the fact that I added a mercury filled recoil reducer into the buffer tube of the chassis and then the Fat Bastard brake. I have to take thew brake off durin g F Class matches, however, the difference without it being on is not noticed.
 
My problem is shooting prone . The way they fused my neck I hurt for 3-4 days afterward. The recoil I can handle but don't enjoy it much. I have a 03 Springfield and have always had good luck with IMR 4895. I use H4895 in my .308's and should use it in the 06. I've shot some steel here lately and like it.
 
My problem is shooting prone . The way they fused my neck I hurt for 3-4 days afterward. The recoil I can handle but don't enjoy it much. I have a 03 Springfield and have always had good luck with IMR 4895. I use H4895 in my .308's and should use it in the 06. I've shot some steel here lately and like it.
Suppressor is another pricy option. It eliminates the use of hearing protection in 80% of the rifles
 
You sound like you know your rifle (and your load) inside and out.

I would bet that there are a dozen of us right now who are seriously rethinking the old 30-06. There's a lot of long actions out there begging for rebirth. jd

I have learned that when I try to reload for several calibers, you lose the sharpness on all. I like to focus on one caliber, 30--06, try to shoot it well
Suppressor is another pricy option. It eliminates the use of hearing protection in 80% of the rifles

I cannot own one in communist Illinois
 
I have learned that when I try to reload for several calibers, you lose the sharpness on all. I like to focus on one caliber, 30--06, try to shoot it well


I cannot own one in communist Illinois
Loading several calibers works ok for me just not too many. Loading several too often together can cause issues tho. I'm pretty much a two cartridge loader these days. Deer and varmint cartridge.
 

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