.30-06 F-Class Rifle

[Lone Hunter]

Nice shooting. Looks like your velocity stayed pretty consistent .

 

[Mike Conroy]

The 9s are my fault. I could feel that they went in to the chamber differently and that bolt wasnt as tight. I knew I should have unloaded them and chambered a different round. Oh well....lessons learned.

 

[jakelly]

It is. The leftist anti gun reality here is ridiculous. Prudence dictates NOT giving them a baseball bat to beat us with.

We all *know* what would happen if the same ppl who call the NRA a terrorist org got wind of this thread.

Wisdom dictates we NOT help them demonize us.

What counsel does wisdom and prudence offer with regard to reproving your ally publicly in battle? You’re supposing that all our words are being twisted and used against us, do you think in-fighting and team-flaming strengthens our position?

 

[garandman]

What counsel does wisdom and prudence offer with regard to reproving your ally publicly in battle? You’re supposing that all our words are being twisted and used against us, do you think in-fighting and team-flaming strengthens our position?

Iron sharens iron.

I don't care to rehash all this, but you asked an intereting question. It deserved an answer.

Beyond that... that's what God created IM for.

Peace.

 

[Steve Donlon]

I am going to ignore the PC patrol and ask about the chamber of the barrel. I have read that there are a couple of ver of the Serengeti reamer and was curious as to which one you used, and how close did it match the print?

There a two different free bore lengths and two chamber sizes. A no turn .340 and a turn at .337. Freebore are .086 or .109. I have one of each. The .109 is for longer bullets like the 208 ELD. For me my rifle with the .086 shoots the Berger 200 20x bullets better than I thought a rifle could shoot no matter what caliber. I do not compete so fatigue is not an issue. My hat is off to any one that competes with a 30-06.

 

[Mike Conroy]

There a two different free bore lengths and two chamber sizes. A no turn .340 and a turn at .337. Freebore are .086 or .109. I have one of each. The .109 is for longer bullets like the 208 ELD. For me my rifle with the .086 shoots the Berger 200 20x bullets better than I thought a rifle could shoot no matter what caliber. I do not compete so fatigue is not an issue. My hat is off to any one that competes with a 30-06.

That's one.of the best compliments. I will take that anyday. Thank you Sir.

I think i have the .086 freebore version with the no turn .340 chamber size. The 190 Berger is thee pill for this setup, a close second is the Hornady 195 grn ELD M.

 

[atblis]

Anybody using RL17? Didn't see it mentioned. Thought that was the powder for heavy 30-06.

 

[cmillard]

Never used r17. Only h4350. I hear some use h4831, and IIRC, German Salazar used it with 200 grainers for his long range loads.

 

[Mike Conroy]

I have tried IMR4350, H4350 and SW4350. My barrel likes the IMR version the best, followed closely by Hogdon. The SW 4350 is a denser powder, it takes about 1.5 grains to shoot the same velocity as IMR. Since i am shooting a 190 grn bullet , i really have only tried these powders.

 

[olddav]

This thread has distressed me beyond reason. With all the new info that has been presented over these 7 pages, I will now have to save some money, first for a reamer then a barrel and I just can’t consider what else will be required beyond those two items right now. Woe is me!!!

 

[Bart B.]

Ensure the reamer has a 1.5 degree throat angle and it may shoot as accurate as the 308 Win. A 1:12 twist 26 to 28 inch barrel is best for 190 to 200 grain match bullets in warm weather with max loads.

 

[mauser284]

PC doctrine dictates that all phrases and names be taken in the worst possible way.

This is a huge part of the problem in America and American politics.

Political Correctness is self censorship and all censorship is bad. Every word can be taken offensively by someone.

If someone is easily offend then they have a weak and undisciplined mind that is not ruled by logic but emotion!

People like that will almost always make bad decisions and will live their life based on fear and avoidance of fear. It does not matter if reality, knowledge and facts do not support their actions or their beliefs. Human beings are not sock puppets we can control our thoughts, actions, emotions and whether or not be allow ourselves to be "offended".

 

[mauser284]

I have a couple of 1:8 twist barrels in 30cal because I want to be able to stabilize all weights of 30 cal bullets especial the insanely have ones like the . They are hunting weight barrels though.

 

[cmillard]

I have a couple of 1:8 twist barrels in 30cal because I want to be able to stabilize all weights of 30 cal bullets especial the insanely have ones like the . They are hunting weight barrels though.

Hmmm, 230 A-tip in an 8” twist 30-06 would be interesting

 

[Mike Conroy]

Bart B., Inwas under the impression that a 1:11 is optimal for anything up to a 190 grain bullet for stabilization and that a 1:12 is ideal for 155 Palmas and 168s.....?

Mike

 

[Bindi2]

215 Berger using H4831 in an AI at 2800 fps. Might have to try some 220 /230 for a steep learning curve

 

[Don_Parsons]

Awesome rifle Mike, that was my pick before my friend built me a long throat 308 Winchester,,, my velocities pretty much match what you have going with yours...

I still have my Remmy 700 30/06 LR shelved for the fall hunt,,, I had a custom 6.5 A-square built off of another Remmy BDL that was a Ought-6... It was called a 6.5 Newton back in the day,,, the American folks want something similar to this so they came up with the 6.5/06 known as the A-square...

I've had a life long run with the 30/06,,, what an thrill to have it amongst us...

Now I get a chance to use the same case for this new cartridge...

The 6.5 A-square is a dream to shoot,,, its built on a 1977 Remington Model 700 BDL in left hand,,, I had my good friend Bob Jury spin me a contour 2.8 stainless steel barrel,,, basically it's 1 mm thicker then a factory Remington sporter barrel...

The walnut wood stock was in immaculate condition,,, so I used it on this build,,, My other good friend R Galloway did the final fitting along with a trigger tech,,, he re-shanked the back of the bolt for a snug fit,,, a larger collar to keep it tight in the action...

That was a old bench rest trick back in the day instead of of ordering a custom PT&G bolt...

I might throw on a Jewel target trigger since there my fav...

I topped it off with a 3-15 Vortex with quick change mounts to a Nikon 3-12 M3,,, the 11.9 lb rifle is a dream to shoot...

I never thought in all of my life time that I'd have a out dated custom cartridge in my hands,,, I call it my down sized 30/06... LOL

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post since I don't want to take away anything from this awesome thread you started Mike...

I can't wait to dust off my Remmy 30/06 LR this winter... Super fun to shoot...

I'm a big fan of the 30/06 Lapua brass,,, I kept some for my 30/06,,, and neck down 150 of them for my A-square,,, I'll tell you one thing,,, 30/06 Lapua brass necked down to 6.5 deffinatly puts the reloading press to work... Ha

6.5 A-Square
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7jcw4948cnndFSib6
Cheers from the North

 

[Mike Conroy]

Great looking rifle!! I am sure she is a dream to shoot. How far have you taken her out as far as distance?

Mike

Awesome rifle Mike, that was my pick before my friend built me a long throat 308 Winchester,,, my velocities pretty much match what you have going with yours...

I still have my Remmy 700 30/06 LR shelved for the fall hunt,,, I had a custom 6.5 A-square built off of another Remmy BDL that was a Ought-6... It was called a 6.5 Newton back in the day,,, the American folks want something similar to this so they came up with the 6.5/06 known as the A-square...

I've had a life long run with the 30/06,,, what an thrill to have it amongst us...

Now I get a chance to use the same case for this new cartridge...

The 6.5 A-square is a dream to shoot,,, its built on a 1977 Remington Model 700 BDL in left hand,,, I had my good friend Bob Jury spin me a contour 2.8 stainless steel barrel,,, basically it's 1 mm thicker then a factory Remington sporter barrel...

The walnut wood stock was in immaculate condition,,, so I used it on this build,,, My other good friend R Galloway did the final fitting along with a trigger tech,,, he re-shanked the back of the bolt for a snug fit,,, a larger collar to keep it tight in the action...

That was a old bench rest trick back in the day instead of of ordering a custom PT&G bolt...

I might throw on a Jewel target trigger since there my fav...

I topped it off with a 3-15 Vortex with quick change mounts to a Nikon 3-12 M3,,, the 11.9 lb rifle is a dream to shoot...

I never thought in all of my life time that I'd have a out dated custom cartridge in my hands,,, I call it my down sized 30/06... LOL

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post since I don't want to take away anything from this awesome thread you started Mike...

I can't wait to dust off my Remmy 30/06 LR this winter... Super fun to shoot...

I'm a big fan of the 30/06 Lapua brass,,, I kept some for my 30/06,,, and neck down 150 of them for my A-square,,, I'll tell you one thing,,, 30/06 Lapua brass necked down to 6.5 deffinatly puts the reloading press to work... Ha

6.5 A-Square
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7jcw4948cnndFSib6
Cheers from the North

 

[Don_Parsons]

Normally I run it at 100 to 600 meters,,, after hunting season raps up I'm heading out to the Fred Bragg Memorial Shooting Range at Consort Alberta...

We can reach out to 1450 yards out there,,, my 32" 308 F Class rig can just barely pull it off,,, there are 2 iron gongs up there that have flashing indicator lights on them,,, one gong is 12",,, the other is 24"... I like the smaller gong since it allows me to spot the miss shots up there... Ha

Kicking up dirt is the best way to learn...

Any-who,,, I'll tap it kool on my first outting out there in the 695 to 1170 yards,,, then strategize from there...

It is by far the best long distance shooting range I've shot at out of the 7 I've been too in Western Canada... Super friendly folk...

I'm very humbled and hounered to get a chance to part take in Fred's life long dream of true MarksMan ship...

I wish I could of meet the man... There is quit a story behind his accomplishments,,, Fred was a 30/06 M1 shooter,,, very disciplined shooter as well...

The club houners Fred every year with a military cartridge shoot,,, if the cartridge is an approved military cartridge that has been used in combat,,, then your allowed to enter,,, its one of my dream shoots to take part in...

Of course I'll be using my 30/06 Remmy LR with the Jewel trigger... Ha...

Sand bags or sling with free hand,,, no bypods allowed...

I'll post more info on the Northern 30/06 stuff if thats ok with you Mike and the rest of the gang that visits this thread...

Here's a link to the Nose Hill Club for the folks in our Western Canada area that might be interested in visiting the range...

$5 a day or $85 per year,,, very adorable in this days age of shooting sports...

About 200 iron silhouettes for the hand gun and 22 rimfire group,,, 40 to 60 main gongs for us full bore shooters,,, there are 60 white 12" gongs on top of that at undisclosed distances as well...

A range finder is a must,,, along with a ballistic chart for quick reference if a person wants to go live... Ha...

Hot barrel shooting is a real eye opener

PS: Please feel free to scroll to the bottom of home page,,, and click the """Learn more about Fred Bragg,,, a true war hero that allows us to live our freedoms...

http://nhgc.biz/index.php

Cheers from the North

 

[Don_Parsons]

A few long-time shooters on another hunting forum that I visit switched over to the trusty 30/06 last week,,, both of them came from a long list of rifles they owned over the years... 243'a on up to 378's with ever thing in-between,,, purhaps the time had come for each of them to scale back to the simple stuff in life,,, that was my path 6 years ago...

Don't get me right or wrong,,, at times I miss my 300 and 338 Mags,,, but things in life change,,, for some of us that is...

I started off with a list of 200+ cartridges,,, I slowly dwindle it down to the top 40 of advantages and disadvantage to fit my hunting and shooting hobby...

I needed just enough to get by on the hunting grounds at X distance,,, and enough for long distance iron gong plinking,,, the little bit of extra punch-junk of the 30/06 over the 308 was so close that it was a split of 50/50,,, the only reason that the 30/06 became the cartridge of choice for me was,,, it was my first new rifle I ever owned when I took up hunting back in the mid 70's,,, lots of critters were harvested with that rifle,,, of course bigger and better showed up when the Magnums entered the picture... Ha...

I had a 308 heavy barrel back in the day for hunting as well,,, 5 years of that before I headed into archery only for a long stint,,, then back to rifle as I mentioned...

Any-who,,, these fellows will surely enjoy the good times ahead,,, I'm sure that they will also look back at the days of """when,""" because the past is always part of our future there's nothing wrong with this since or passion,,, wants,,, and needs dictate where we end up at in life,,, again,,, """for some of us that is."""

There are lots of fine cartridges,,, rifles,,, optics and bling out there that helps us make the package we want,,, purhaps this is one of the many reasons for change up or down depending on which side of the fence we're standing behind...

Shooting sports is only a small part of the picture in my life since lots of other outdoor activities also play a role,,, the old school 30/06 brought me back into the game with something extra to add to the mix...

My old friend said that the 30/06 ain't the sharpest pencil in the pack,,, and it ain't the dull-est either,,, its kind of the middle ground between not enough and to much depending on the person...

Cheers from the North