Wow
That picture in your profile is very impressive! The hunt of a lifetime I would assume.
J
Elk calibers
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That picture in your profile is very impressive! The hunt of a lifetime I would assume.
J
Ryan
I studied the picture couldn't tell which direction it was pointed.
It's not just elk hunting ethics boss.
Hunting ethics in general.
Nice bull in your avitar.
I see person after person advocating getting closer time after time.
since I don't know where you hunt or how I will just say that where I have hunted elk [ since 1983] getting closer is usually a pipe dream. you either shoot em where they stand or kiss em good by, cause they aint staying around for you to put the sneak on them during rifle season. they already been fooled by every sound a call can make by then.
since I don't know where you hunt or how I will just say that where I have hunted elk [ since 1983] getting closer is usually a pipe dream. you either shoot em where they stand or kiss em good by, cause they aint staying around for you to put the sneak on them during rifle season. they already been fooled by every sound a call can make by then.
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I dont find energy numbers too useful. A light bullet traveling fast has a lot of energy but will blow up on impact. A 500 grain slug going slow wont have a lot of energy but will punch through both shoulders on an elk. To me an "elk rifle" will make it through a shoulder at the max distance you plan to shoot, because we are not perfect and the bullet very well may end up there. If you plan to use a rifle that cant do that, your range should be limited as well as the shots you take, because you want to be 100% sure you stay out of the shoulder. Thats my opinion. And for those of you not out west, we have wind, a lot of it. There is nothing wrong with a 6.5 or .243 or any other small gun, just plan to either get close or pass on shots. The open country I live in does not always let you get close, so I like to have a little bigger bullet.
ryanjay11
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Thanks guys! I shot him at 750 yards after jogging up a hill for about a mile to cut off the herd. I got setup and put two shots 3" apart right behind the shoulder. It's the current episode on Petersen's TV if you want to watch it.
I know my own limitations of fitness, marksmanship, and equipment are different than other hunters. Everyone is different. I would never push someone to take a shot they are uncomfortable with, and I also would expect others to show the same courtesy on setting limitations on what isn't possible/ethical/etc.
there is always Muzzle loaders,
My coworker just got a nice 6x5
His biggest was taken with a bow
a few years back
He busts his ass for a week straight
ryanjay11
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Muzzleloaders are a great option. 
This is smokeless build that shoots Parker 270s at 2950. My longest kill with it is a Whitetail doe at 406 yards. I'm sure it would work fantastic on Elk as well, depending on the state's regulations. I'm probably going to take it to Nebraska this year for Mule deer.
This is smokeless build that shoots Parker 270s at 2950. My longest kill with it is a Whitetail doe at 406 yards. I'm sure it would work fantastic on Elk as well, depending on the state's regulations. I'm probably going to take it to Nebraska this year for Mule deer.
I believe you could use it in Oregon during regular rifle season, I'd have to check regs.Muzzleloaders are a great option.
This is smokeless build that shoots Parker 270s at 2950. My longest kill with it is a Whitetail doe at 406 yards. I'm sure it would work fantastic on Elk as well, depending on the state's regulations. I'm probably going to take it to Nebraska this year for Mule deer.
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Muzeloader here is open ignition.
I'm not as old as many on this forum, but I have been hunting elk for 29 years. I have killed my share of elk, not sure of an exact tally and most were taken with a bow. However, I have killed a few with firearms. I have used 270 winchester, 7mmbr, 475 wildey, 300wsm, 45-70, 405 winchester. I have been with others who have used 338 win mag, 300wsm, 270.
I have also killed a few moose, a few caribou, moutain goat, bighorn sheep, antelope, a few bears, quite a few mule deer, and a few whitetails.
One thing I can say with certainy is that NO animal ever hit through the chest with both lungs and or heart shot, ever ran more than around 150 yards, the vast majority never running more than 80. The only times I saw an animal make it any real distance were shots that got only one lung, or barely nicked the lungs or were far back and actually got liver.
My 7mmbr xp100 has taken more elk than any other of the firearms I have used. 130gr bullet at around 2300fps IIRC.
But, if you want a bullet to kill them instantly with a Texas heart shot, use something big.
I have also killed a few moose, a few caribou, moutain goat, bighorn sheep, antelope, a few bears, quite a few mule deer, and a few whitetails.
One thing I can say with certainy is that NO animal ever hit through the chest with both lungs and or heart shot, ever ran more than around 150 yards, the vast majority never running more than 80. The only times I saw an animal make it any real distance were shots that got only one lung, or barely nicked the lungs or were far back and actually got liver.
My 7mmbr xp100 has taken more elk than any other of the firearms I have used. 130gr bullet at around 2300fps IIRC.
But, if you want a bullet to kill them instantly with a Texas heart shot, use something big.
Well it's looking like next weekend is gonna be filled with listening to guys snore,fart and telling hunting stories.
Got invited to go with family for good times elk hunting. I'm going for the comradery, spotting, but most of all God willing a pack mule.
To me it truly is about the hunt.
Got invited to go with family for good times elk hunting. I'm going for the comradery, spotting, but most of all God willing a pack mule.
To me it truly is about the hunt.
That was a very entertaining episode! Tell us more about your rifle setup. What were specifics of the load you were using? Very windy, how did you determine your hold off?
That camera zoom was amazing, I can’t believe how clear it was zooming at 750 yards!!
Jdne5b
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Looked like his 6 creedmoor. 107 SMK.
Thanks for all the imput....you have talked me into a larger caliber...I'm gonna settle on a 300WSM.
ryanjay11
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Load: 300 WSM with 200 ELD-X seated just in front of the neck/shoulder junction(not possible in a short action): Norma Brass, BR-2 primer, 68.5 grains H4831SC. It is a mild load at 2830 fps.
Rifle: Defiance XM, Proof 24", Thunderbeast Ultra 7, Manners EH1, Trigger was a Jewell, but I've switched to Triggertech Diamond, Atlas bipod, Nightforce ATACR F1 4-16x42mm, Seekins Low rings
I use a G7 BR2 rangefinder with a Kestrel and wind indicator(fancy baby powder), and observe the grass, trees, etc. to calculate my hold.
I agree. How natives hunt doesn't really have any correlation to the modern sportsmen's hunting ethic in my opinion. The video is a bit rough to watch but it illustrates how very different primitive hunters take big game and how much more humane modern hunters are with modern equipment. That's not a judgement on them, if I was in their position fighting for survival every day with the same weapons I'd hunt that way too but I'm not going to change the type of rifle I feel I can make a quick humane kill with based on what they're doing with spears.
killing and tenderizing all in one! or perhaps the massive amount of adrenaline makes them taste awful?
While I might not agree with the leadership of the RMEF all of the time THEY lead the way when it comes to advocating for elk and elk habitat. Below is a good example:
http://sportingclassicsdaily.com/rm...-69310221&mc_cid=67037dc276&mc_eid=8fc174d6b8
Jim
Thanks, I was not trying to cast any bad light on the RMEF. Just wanted input from members here that had dealings with this organization.
Mark
My experience as well
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