Elk calibers

[drover]

Thats why they make muzzle brakes. Matt

Which adds to the noise which will add to the flinch. Lack of noise is one of reasons that most folks shoot smaller groups with a suppressed rifle than they do with a non-suppressed one.

drover

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Doesn't the noise happen after the bullets out of the barrel?

 

[drover]

Doesn't the noise happen after the bullets out of the barrel?

Yes but your mind knows it is going to happen, so when it happens is not really relevant.

drover

 

[22DASHER]

A monster bull would make me flinch a hell of a lot more than the freaking muzzle break.

 

[JFrank]

So Gents
What is the bottom line?
When I get to the new place in Montana I'll need to get upgraded to the proper equipment.
Regards
SPJ

 

[luckeeshot]

SPJ do you hunt elk now ?

 

[JFrank]

SPJ do you hunt elk now ?

No
Haven't hunted Elk since maybe early 90s
We hunted Deer, Elk and Bear mainly with 30.06 3x9 Bushnell scope.

It's going to be a big challenge as well due to the old body breaking down.

 

[luckeeshot]

a .270 win is still a good bet ,, but not as good as a good friend to hunt with ,I moved here from FL in 96 hiked all over the hills east of here , Ive seen elk all over the place but never when I had a tag ,, so my advice is not to worry about the caliber of the rifle and worry more with the prey and put yourself where you know you can make a kill shot and oh yes that good friend you'll need him to help load the game

 

[jimmymac]

I have seen first hand in 1990 how hard a bull elk can be to anchor once they get some adrenolen going. I will never forget this hunt in NW Colorado. There were three of my family members stitting in different spots looking over the same ravine to another mountain side. Each one of us could see different “parks”. Local term for small grassy feeding areas for elk surrounded with think Aspen trees. One morning I saw a 4x4 and a 4x5 come out about 300-350 yards from me. Medium body size, nothing large. I was looking for something bigger since this was the first day. They continued walk toward the view of one of my hunting partners. He was using a 300 Win Mag. I was viewing the elk with my binoculars when all the sudden I saw a hole punched directly in center chest, I could see a large vapor of blood blow out the opposite side of his chest for several feet. The elk just stopped, still standing. Then I saw another hole just like the first punched in the bull, just inches from the first. The bull, still standing dropped his head, started wobbling and looked like it was going to topple any time. All the sudded, the bull raised his head, appeared alert, and took off in a fast walk like it had never been shot! My hunting partner continued shooting until he had shot all of the 20 rounds of his 300 Win. Mag. By that time, I had walked over their. The elk had finally collased about 350-400 yard from us. For good measure, our guide put two more 180g parttion rounds in its neck and chest from a 30-06, too make sure he did not get up. I kid you not, after just a few minutes, the elk raised his head, stood up, and started walking toward the Aspen forest like he had never been hit. The guide finally asked me to put him down. Quickly, I aimed my .338 Win Mag about level with the top of the shoulder. It was loaded with 210g Nosler Partitions. I pulled the trigger, a second later we heard a big “whoomp”! The bull buckled up, fell, and never moved again. The guide did have me put another round in his chest for safe measure. All in all, after cleaning it, the bull had 11 rounds in his neck and chest! After that, I personally will never be without my .338 WM elk hunting. The down side is it is hard to manage the recoil for a lot of people. Mine has a large wide recoil pad, the buttstock has no drop. It is very managable. I have actually shot a narrow stocked, light .270 one time that hurt me worse than my .338! So, shoot all you can manage. With heavy, well constructed bullets! Samuel Hall

That’s quite a story. Thanks for sharing. Piss on the naysayers. You were living in the moment instead of arm chair quarterbacking it from behind a keyboard.

 

[JFrank]

a .270 win is still a good bet ,, but not as good as a good friend to hunt with ,I moved here from FL in 96 hiked all over the hills east of here , Ive seen elk all over the place but never when I had a tag ,, so my advice is not to worry about the caliber of the rifle and worry more with the prey and put yourself where you know you can make a kill shot and oh yes that good friend you'll need him to help load the game

Probably a rocking chair and blast the SOB in the garden

 

[Mulligan]

https://www.chuckhawks.com/elk_cartridges.htm

Takes a couple of minutes to read, but worth the time.
CW

 

[JFrank]

Thx
That's a good read, I suppose when the time comes they'll be plenty of Elk rifles available until then my 308 will be fine on Mule deer. I'm a pretty decent shot with it..
Regards
Jim

 

[JRS]

www.rmef.org

Read what they say about hunting elk.

 

[Barlow]

Back when the ultra mags came out and were popular a group of hunters (at least 10) camped down the road from us in the Bighorns. Most of them acquired 300 ultras and similar magnum rifles convinced the could kill any Elk 500 yards away with no problems. After a few season of scopes loosening up and falling off, cut eyebrows, flinching so bad they didn't even want to sight them in themselves, the cost of ammunition, and chasing wounded Elk up and down the hills, they all drifted back to their old 06's, 270's, 308's etc and talked about shot placement. They were 11 for 11 this year, (6 bulls and 5 cows) best year they ever had. I'm not dissing magnum cartridges, if you can tolerate them and shoot them well, go for it. If you can't, you are imo better off without them. Hunt with a rifle you are familiar with and are comfortable shooting, no Elk will survive you. Be ethical, don't take shit shots with any rifle. Barlow

 

[JFrank]

www.rmef.org

Read what they say about hunting elk.

A give away trip?

 

[Bc'z]

Thx
That's a good read, I suppose when the time comes they'll be plenty of Elk rifles available until then my 308 will be fine on Mule deer. I'm a pretty decent shot with it..
Regards
Jim

If a 150 coming out of a 270 @3000 fps works.
Wouldn't you think a 150 coming out of a 308 @ 2850 have the same effect?
Not saying you'll be shooting cross cannons, but you'll have plenty enough to get er done.

 

[JRS]

If a 150 coming out of a 270 @3000 fps works.
Wouldn't you think a 150 coming out of a 308 @ 2850 have the same effect?
Not saying you'll be shooting cross cannons, but you'll have plenty enough to get er done.

The 150Gr .270 has better SD.

 

[JFrank]

If a 150 coming out of a 270 @3000 fps works.
Wouldn't you think a 150 coming out of a 308 @ 2850 have the same effect?
Not saying you'll be shooting cross cannons, but you'll have plenty enough to get er done.

That's a good vote of confidence, at least with the 308 I hit what I'm aiming at"
7 mag well.. maybe not so much
Or my buddies 300 Weatherby mag . good lord that thing would wear ya out just sighting in.!
Thx Brett

 

[JimT]

The 150Gr .270 has better SD.

I heard that 90% of elk surveyed said they could not tell the difference between being shot with a .277 150 grain bullet as compared to a .308 150 grain bullet. Of course, they could have been lying.

 

[Mulligan]

I heard that 90% of elk surveyed said they could not tell the difference between being shot with a .277 150 grain bullet as compared to a .308 150 grain bullet. Of course, they could have been lying.

^^^^^^ that right there is funny^^^^^^^^
CW