I can see that. Lapua stuff does seem to be generally more accepted when released. Their 6BR and 6.5x284 is the stabdard. I suspect we'd see Peterson before Nammo put it out.
Why doesn’t Lapua make PPC brass?
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I can see that. Lapua stuff does seem to be generally more accepted when released. Their 6BR and 6.5x284 is the stabdard. I suspect we'd see Peterson before Nammo put it out.
NORMA had a dumb attack on their BR case dimensions. That was the issue, imho...
The dimensions were provided to NORMA.
Must have been somebody with ESL...
butchlambert
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The 220 Russian had a problem with the brass growing in length. Gene Beggs did a lot of experimenting and found that a slight radius at the neck shoulder juncture would help alleviate this problem. That is the difference.
Mulligan
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Thanks Butch
CW
Yep...but actually the Russian has more radius, though. It's a sharper radius at the neck/shoulder junction on the Beggs that helps stop the stretch issue. The Beggs is a winner. It'll shoot with anything. And it's simple. I really like simple.
dgeesaman
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Because fireforming really limits the 6ppc as a non-comp caliber.
That said, Norma brass is quite good and serves the non-comp crowd very well. Like me. And if I really want Lapua there are brass services that will make them for a very reasonable price.
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WyleWD
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+1^ Definitely agree.
Not every reloader has the necessary skills, or methodology, or tools to make really good consistent 6ppc brass from the Lapua. And the Norma shoots quite well in every PPC chamber that I've tried it in.
Also agree with the poster regarding the 6 Grendel being an option. JME. WD
In my personal experience, the Norma brass is just to soft to take the high pressures that Benchrest shooters normally load the 6PPC too. The Norma brass is great dimentionally, just not as tough as Lapua.
Paul
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How much pressure are we talking about? 55k, 60k?I know this subject may be taboo, but I am curious.In my personal experience, the Norma brass is just to soft to take the high pressures that Benchrest shooters normally load the 6PPC too. The Norma brass is great dimentionally, just not as tough as Lapua.
Paul
Of course, I have a bag of Norma 6ppc brass and neck turned my first 9 pieces last night so I can shoot them side by side with the Lapua. Ultimately I will have answers based on my own experience.
Dusty Stevens
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Short and simple reason here? There isn’t a demand for it. The PPC
is the dominant cartridge in a sport where virtually everyone who uses it, wants, to do their own case forming. Lapua has repeatedly polled shooters (actual benchrest competitors, not varminters or others who may use the cartridge occasionally) and the consensus is almost always the same; “no need, we’d rather do it ourselves.” Given the demanding nature of the competition, and the fact that so many of the cases will be culled during their initial forming process, that’s not too hard to understand. And while the cartridge dominates this game, it’s never received more than very casual interest on the part of most of the non-benchrest community. Lapua pays a great deal of attention to the shooters requests, and they have a new products development meeting each year to lay out the priorities of the new introductions. But as cartiridges go, the 6mm PPC is an absolute whopper . . . in an extremely small pond. Unless that situation changes drastically, it’s unlikely to be added to the line.
is the dominant cartridge in a sport where virtually everyone who uses it, wants, to do their own case forming. Lapua has repeatedly polled shooters (actual benchrest competitors, not varminters or others who may use the cartridge occasionally) and the consensus is almost always the same; “no need, we’d rather do it ourselves.” Given the demanding nature of the competition, and the fact that so many of the cases will be culled during their initial forming process, that’s not too hard to understand. And while the cartridge dominates this game, it’s never received more than very casual interest on the part of most of the non-benchrest community. Lapua pays a great deal of attention to the shooters requests, and they have a new products development meeting each year to lay out the priorities of the new introductions. But as cartiridges go, the 6mm PPC is an absolute whopper . . . in an extremely small pond. Unless that situation changes drastically, it’s unlikely to be added to the line.
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WyleWD
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WDHard to believe or not, that’s the truth. I’ve sat in in more than a few of those meetings, and surveyed plenty of shooters at a number of Benchrest matches.
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dcali
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Just curious, but do you have an idea on what percentage of .220 Russian does *not* get turned into PPC or used in serious benchrest competition?
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