Which Scale Check Weights?

[JFrank]

Ill be glad when winter is over. Who cares if your scale says 43.45 or 43.44 on a powder weight as long as it repeats? And if you find out that your 43.45 load is the one you like itll be different next week.
And if i scratch 68.45gr on a bullet that i weigh on my lab scale that doesnt change the weight of that bullet. Then i toss it into the pan on a tuned balance beam itll say the same thing it did 2 years ago. Can anybody on here see the difference in 30.42gr and 30.49gr? You shoot off the shelf bullets in unsorted cases outside of a tunnel with no windflags with a questionable scope on a $400rest, i could go on and on

Dilly Dilly "

 

[danny]

What's wrong with the RCBS or Lyman check weight sets at around $40? I've checked my set against a good calibrated lab scale and found they were too close to worry. They are grain weights and by combining weights you can make up a weight very near the load you intend to use. If you want to be using a powder load of 36.5gns just make up the exact weight (20,10,5,1,.5) with the check weights and make sure your scale reads zero and repeats at that weight. In fact, you don't even need any numbers on your scale.

Is the RCBS Deluxe Scale Check Weight Set accurate enough if you want to calibrate multiple scales you own rather than to use them just to verify if they are reading the same from session to session and month to month, etc.?

Danny

 

[1066]

Is the RCBS Deluxe Scale Check Weight Set accurate enough if you want to calibrate multiple scales you own rather than to use them just to verify if they are reading the same from session to session and month to month, etc.?

Danny

I have a Lyman set and have checked them against an analytical balance and found they were all within .02 of a grain - Good enough for me.

 

[ED3]

USE Precision scale weight sets,a lot of scales have a 20 gram/308.6 grain scale weight,you use them to Zero your scale.and put Precision weights on and find out your scale is off.Lyman and other Company's make them ,relatively cheap.What ever you are weighing,Example-you want to way 44.3 grains,u put 44.3 grains of the precision weights on your pan,zero it take them off put them back,it should read 44.3 grains.What ever the weight is your trying to measure.They have .5,1,2,5,10.20.50.100 grain precision weights.You can check EXACTLY where your scale is.If your goal is The most accurate Shells you can Get,the Check weights are the way to go.I just got another 1000 40 grain bullets,i sorted by Ogive length,and weighed them.To my surprise i had bullets that weighed from 39.4 grains to 40.2 grains, They shoot to different POI and the lighter ones usually don't group as well.I,ve had multiple bullets in different calibers, that when weighed were off.At one time or another most people WILL wind up getting bullets that do not weigh what they are supposed to weigh.If your trying to drop powder charges to 1-2 kernals of powder,ya can't when your scale is off.If you are using balance type,digital,etc,the scale weights are #1.I have been loading since the 60's,have seen scales stop working,start fluctuating,ETC Shit Happens,If you have Check Weights,At Least you will know what happened Before The Boom. lol

"...Example-you want to way 44.3 grains,u put 44.3 grains of the precision weights on your pan,zero it take them off put them back,it should read 44.3 grains..."

Actually, it should read 'zero'

 

[dgeesaman]

I have a TROEMNER 100 Gram CLASS 1 CALIBRATION WEIGHT. Class 1 would be the the most precise. (I think). this is for use on my fx120i. using this i found that from the retail place i purchased it from, their calibration was off 0.644 grains.

You can sometimes find good, used deals on Ebay for Class 1 calibration weight. I picked the 100 gram because it's set by default. you can change to the 50gram weight.

I use a 2 gram Troemner weight.

Whenever I get the itch to check my scales that’s what I use.

David

 

[Ron Gorski]

i need to buy a GOOD set of scale check weights. Please throw some options at me as to which weights are accurate and reliable.

Also, let me know which weights you would not recommend due to inconsistency of weight.

It depends on what scale you are trying the check(calibrate) that will determine which class of weights you need.

 

[Puzzaz01]

You guys are putting way to much too much thought into all of this!
I just dump (example) 40.0 grains into my pan on a Scott Parker tuned scale now I transfer it over to my A&D FX120, WAH-LAH, it reads 40.0 grains ..... you're ready to go. Now as far as weighing it down to .02 that's ridiculous. I can prove to you that plus or minus .04 in a well tuned rig means absolutely nothing. I've tested during matches just to prove it to my self.

Darrin

 

[JimSC]

You guys are putting way to much too much thought into all of this!

It's January and the internet is a warm place.

Edit it's February 1st and the internet is still a warm place even if I don't know what month it is

 

[DDRH65PRC]

I use a 2 gram Troemner weight.

Whenever I get the itch to check my scales that’s what I use.

David

Class 1? I try to calibrate before I measure any powder. It's pretty quick.

 

[Depart123]

So what is everyone doing to outsmart the anti drift software built into the scale?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

So what is everyone doing to outsmart the anti drift software built into the scale?

Not now- we still think these scales are exact!!

 

[varget204]

three months ago my pulled 40 grain .22LR bullet check weight weighed 39.96 grains the first day I weighed it. Just weighed it and it weighed 39.94 grains. My powder load has about 35 FPS difference between 37.30 and 37 .80 gns so if my weighed charge of 37.50 is off .02 grains one way or the other I will never notice it. My buddy swears by his RCBS 750 Chargemaster and at 1000 yards can bust a clay pigeon 3 out of 4 shots. It's called load development, you look for flat spots in the velocity curve so you don't have to worry if the load was developed in 30 degree weather and now it's the middle of August

At 1000 yards 50fps less is 12 to 14 inches more drop

 

[varget204]

Sorry you feel so strongly about my posts. Maybe i should be on your ignore lists so as to not cloud up your reloading prowess. If your scale check bullet varies in weight you should invest in a new scale.

It doesn't bother me if you Ignore my post,I shoot many thousands of rounds at 1000 yards,would not be able to hit targets if scale was not accurate.

 

[varget204]

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ARE those Selfies ?

 

[varget204]

What's wrong with the RCBS or Lyman check weight sets at around $40? I've checked my set against a good calibrated lab scale and found they were too close to worry. They are grain weights and by combining weights you can make up a weight very near the load you intend to use. If you want to be using a powder load of 36.5gns just make up the exact weight (20,10,5,1,.5) with the check weights and make sure your scale reads zero and repeats at that weight. In fact, you don't even need any numbers on your scale.

Nothing at all,that' Smart People Do.

 

[dkhunt14]

DUH,if your trying to weigh your 45.25 grains,how do you know your scale is Reading Correctly;With Out Checking the Accuracy of your scale w/ precision scale weights ?? If your shooting at 1000 yards or farther,it makes a Difference,If your trying to hit 55 gallon drum at 100 feet it Doen't.

To me, all a scale weight is used for is to check to see scale is repeating and weighing what I weighed last week or the week before. The 45.25 or whatever weight is worked up to in load development with the scale that I used the check weight on. Temerature and humidity have more effect on your load then a .01 difference in powder change. I use a scale that weighs all the same that day. Humidity in powder can change from day to day. Matt

 

[dkhunt14]

At 1000 yards 50fps less is 12 to 14 inches more drop

Not if your in the middle of a node. It's all about tune and not velocity differences. Matt

 

[Bart B.]

Does moisture in powder change its weight or burn rate?

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/09/tech-tip-humidity-can-change-powder-burn-rates/

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2018/03/humidity-and-powder-burn-rates-what-you-need-to-know/

 

[Nature Boy]

I’ll make weights out of washers by filing or grinding them down to match powder charges exactly. These are used to verify that the powder charge is exact and scale is reading correctly. Easy to do then write the weight on it for reference.

That’s a great idea

 

[JFrank]

You could use large and small paper clips as well