The Dasher 100 Yard Challenge

[johara1]

Bart had one time at hawks ridge last year that was like 4hrs between targets. Drew first relay then last relay on the next target. Why rotate relays on each target? I can see each day but each target is rediculous

Dusty, You were at the national and shooting an agg. not shoot offs. When Harry Jones had the national, as fast as it was moving i think if they would have started at 8:00 they could have did it in a day. jim

 

[johara1]

For those interested the IBS will give the clubs the option to shoot agg. for the win instead of the shoot off. The first target will be for the relay win in group and score….. jim

 

[BenPerfected]

How about you long range shooters show us what your equipment can do at 100 yds? At least it would be good to know what level your equipment would need to be at 100 yd before even thinking about learning to shoot at 600-1000 yds.
Ben

 

[4xforfun]

Good morning Jim,,,since you say that you only compete with those under the same condition you must shoot IBS-1000 where you shoot against other relay winners,,,this is what I dont like about IBS-1000 ,,,I dont want to drive half way across america and shoot a 6" group and loose my relay and watch somone in the shoot off get to shoot more targets than me and the other 80% of the shooters who are there,,,however I do like the IBS-600 format better than the NBRSA because they shoot more targets and 5 shot groups in HG as well as LG,,,and I see the luck of the draw playing a major role in long range events (especialy-1000) because of the snails pace of the relays and usually the first relay of the day is the winners and get the chance to shoot the bragging size groups and world records,,,,even in NRA style long range (especially F-class) the target is "spotted" for every shot,,,I took the training wheels off after breaking 3 world records,,,Roger
Just checkin my hate mail,,,now that I have been told that I have never shot at long range and I need to bark up a tree!!!!!

I loved the IBS 600 shoots, but the problem with an agg is that the guys who shoot the early relays usually have the best weather. In IBS 1k the only weather that matters is one that you are shooting in. You may hit a NASTY streach of weather and shoot a 12" group and win your relay and then turn around a beat guys in the shoot off who got in with 5" groups because they hit perfect conditions. Weather is not who beats you in IBS 1000 yard matches...it is the other shooter!!

 

[4xforfun]

How about you long range shooters show us what your equipment can do at 100 yds? At least it would be good to know what level your equipment would need to be at 100 yd before even thinking about learning to shoot at 600-1000 yds.
Ben

Apples and oranges. Different rules. Different equipment. If we LR guys were to tweak our setups to maximize for SR and started kicking your butts you would be yelling foul because our equipment rules are more liberal than yours!! LOL

 

[Eric Leonard]

I fireformed some BR-DX brass today with 105 Hornady BTHP jammed .025 and 29 grs Varget,,it was drizziling rain and I didnt retrieve targets but I am not sure if they wouldnt have agged real close to .250 under .300 I am sure,,
I may load the new brass with my full house BR-DX load and the 105 Hornady instead of the 104 BIBs and see what they will do at 100 yards for 25 shots,,

 

[dedogs]

4 pages and only 4 targets? C'mon guys let's drop the discussion and see SOME MORE TARGETS! dedogs

 

[BartsBullets]

Well this is an interesting sideline! However I didn't start this thread to cause a rift between short range and long range shooters. Let's stick to the topic and see just how well a dasher or any other accurate long range cartridge can agg at 100 yards. This is meant to be kind of fun and interesting guys! Let's keep it that way.

Bart

 

[BartsBullets]

Apples and oranges. Different rules. Different equipment. If we LR guys were to tweak our setups to maximize for SR and started kicking your butts you would be yelling foul because our equipment rules are more liberal than yours!! LOL

4xforfun,

I don't think anyone would yell foul! They would just sell their stuff and buy yours!

Bart

 

[JamesnTN]

4 pages and only 4 targets? C'mon guys let's drop the discussion and see SOME MORE TARGETS! dedogs

Typically my worse groups at 100 are my best at 600 so that's not mush to brag or compare on.
When I shoot at 100 it's just to see if I'm close. Then I do my tweaking at 500-600

 

[xswanted]

I'm sorry I don't have a picture.

I did the challenge today with my Dasher in a new stock and for an extra challenge shot it off a bipod. Maybe that's not an extra challenge who knows......

Anywho....

5 5 shot groups agged .289.

I've shot groups in the ones with that gun but this was a new setup today and I think itbahoots just as well with the new stock and bipod if not as well very close.

Fun!

 

[DennisH]

Is that Geraci boots....i.e. the white shrimper's boots as worn by Don Geraci and Jackie Schmidt? Bart, Billy chambers my Dasher barrels with a reamer with .269 neck and .095 free bore. Are yours chambered the same? If not, what is the measurements of your reamer? Thanks, James

shrimper's boots, a/k/a "LaCross" boots, very popular in Louisiana.

 

[Had2muchofForums]

I shot these groups a few days ago. I think I saw this thread a day or two later. So here are 5 consecutive groups I shot. No foulers or sighters. Shot at 500 meters (547 yards).


Specs of the rifle:
-6BR
-R700
-Bartlein HV 1-8" 28"
-Bobby Hart LRT with aluminum bedding block
-Jewel
-Leupold VX3 8-25x50

Five group aggregate .620 moa

 

[BartsBullets]

I shot these groups a few days ago. I think I saw this thread a day or two later. So here are 5 consecutive groups I shot. No foulers or sighters. Shot at 500 meters (547 yards).


Specs of the rifle:
-6BR
-R700
-Bartlein HV 1-8" 28"
-Bobby Hart LRT with aluminum bedding block
-Jewel
-Leupold VX3 8-25x50

Five group aggregate .620 moa

Good Shooting! Thanks for posting your targets. The one bullet on the first target didn't help your agg! Nice Shooting!

 

[KMart]

shrimper's boots, a/k/a "LaCross" boots, very popular in Louisiana.

Those white shrimper boots are also known as Kemah Ropers between Houston and Galveston.

 

[johara1]

Well this is an interesting sideline! However I didn't start this thread to cause a rift between short range and long range shooters. Let's stick to the topic and see just how well a dasher or any other accurate long range cartridge can agg at 100 yards. This is meant to be kind of fun and interesting guys! Let's keep it that way.

Bart

Bart, maybe you start an other thread, one ten shot group at 1000 with a ppc….. lol Each has their place. Barrel quality is the key at both yardages…. No aggs. at 1000 except at the national. It is hard to get good weather up this way, let alone shoot five 5 shot targets. Jim

 

[BartsBullets]

Bart, maybe you start an other thread, one ten shot group at 1000 with a ppc….. lol Each has their place. Barrel quality is the key at both yardages…. No aggs. at 1000 except at the national. It is hard to get good weather up this way, let alone shoot five 5 shot targets. Jim

Jim,

Actually Vapor Trail will shoot Aggs at 1000 yards this year and it won't be the Nationals.

As far as a 10 shot group with a ppc at a 1000, I'm game! I'm not knocking the dasher. We are just trying to see what it can do at short range. You of all people when the weather breaks should put up a nice agg. You tune at 100 yards with five shot groups.

I love ya! But you're also a professional pot stirrer!


Bart

 

[4xforfun]

4xforfun,

I don't think anyone would yell foul! They would just sell their stuff and buy yours!

Bart

That is the problem...you can't shoot our equipment in srbr. 17 lb guns, 80 pound guns, muzzle brakes, unlimited stock designs. Basicly no equipment rules other than less than .410 caliber and 17lb limit on our LG's. You SR guys have lots of equipment restrictions to make you all equal....kinda like NASCAR.
On the other hand, there is no way in heck that any of my LR guns, as they sit, could hold a candle to a SRBR gun at 100 yards.

This 100 yard group agg thing is going to be a HOOT!!!

 

[BartsBullets]

That is the problem...you can't shoot our equipment in srbr. 17 lb guns, 80 pound guns, muzzle brakes, unlimited stock designs. Basicly no equipment rules other than less than .410 caliber and 17lb limit on our LG's. You SR guys have lots of equipment restrictions to make you all equal....kinda like NASCAR.
On the other hand, there is no way in heck that any of my LR guns, as they sit, could hold a candle to a SRBR gun at 100 yards.

This 100 yard group agg thing is going to be a HOOT!!!

I've been tempted to take my dasher to a match and see how well it would do! I would be disqualified but I think they could track my agg to see how it stacked up. But it's hard to spend all the money it takes to travel and to compete to know that you will be disqualified!

Bart

 

[expiper]

I have felt for some time that HV class should be 17 lb and no stock restrictions,,,that way the long range shooters with legal LG's could bring them to a short range match and see how they do,,,the seasoned short range guys could add weight to their 13.5 lb guns if they wanted to,,,and any stock would allow lots of experimentation,,,,Roger (the only problem would be the cry babies about the breaks,,,)