Stuck case in the chamber
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He had a failure to fire due to no powder in the case but the bullet lodged in the bore. He then fired another shot with the bored obstructed is what I understand.
It's amazing to me that a forgotten bore sighter can do this kind of damage. You would "think" that the laser would simply get pushed out of the end of the barrel.
But there is plenty of pictures that show, that's not the case.
Schippergreg
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I personally haven’t seen a primer lodge a bullet far enough into the rifling to allow another round to chamber. I’ve had a couple in my ppc that I accidentally didn’t put powder in and never moved the bullet. I’m guessing pistol powder or an extremely low powder charge.
That's what I thought he said at first too, but went back and re-read this part of the post.
Fired a few rounds today and everything was fine and last round didn’t go bang, extracted but didn’t look at the case, looks like there was no powder and primer ignition pushed the bullet into the rifling but I thought I extracted it and fired the next round and you know what happened after.
The fact that the barrel wasn't split/bulged, then maybe he did run a rod and cleared the projectile.
That's why I posted that maybe the first round was undercharged, he got a squib, but then actually cleared the bullet. The next was overcharged and that resulted in the blowout.
OK be nice if he clarified the details.
Don’t think will happen. Since the bullets were gone re the ‘range master’ and the the picture text says they are there ( I have no idea what any of the pics show especially with the accompanying text)..
If you’re not confused you haven’t read the very first post by the OP.
I actually hope this whole thing was an attempt at humor.
I was less confused by some of fguffy’s posts.
LOL. I did read it and thought I had it figured out but seemingly I missed the mark as well. Oh well, it is what it is Bro.
I think there’s nothing wrong with sarcasm in this scenario. If I ever had a situation like this (not yet), I’d forget about airing it out to the whole shooting community. If for the small chance I did post it, I think humbled accountability would be the only response to ANY feedback. I also build guitar amplifiers and I’m members of several music/guitar forums and it’s really unbelievably at the amount of hurt feelings and grumbling that occurs after someone is reminded how dumb their process was that led to catastrophic failure. I’m human just like everyone else and I make mistakes. I also choose how many people I invite to observe my mistakes.
Old Navy
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I was probably just one lucky SOB over the years. I had several rounds that didn't go bang. Never had one bullet leave the case. Each time I extracted the round, inspected it, shook it to see if I could tell if it was a dud primer or no powder. Rechambered and tried it again. No bank. Pulled the bullets when I got home and found no powder. I can also remember a couple times that three was powder. Bad primer. Very rare. I started off with a Lee hand re-loader kit back in 68. Had several mag primers go bank while driving the case down on the primer. The driving rod that you pounded on with a nylon primer never came up with enough force for me to loose a grip on it. Maybe with almost no neck tension it might. Don't know what happen. I wasn't there. I know a guy that did have a bullet leave the case that had no powder but that is for another story.
I'm confused how an RO put a rod through it and confirmed TWO projectiles were not in the bore, yet he didn't find the mess that the bore scope did later that night. assume he just stuck a rod down the front of the barrel and assumed he hit a bolt that wouldn't open?
That seems strange that he would come to the conclusion he came to with as much experience as he should have had.
Details at this point aren't likely to matter or teach anyone any different than the advice already provided.
That seems strange that he would come to the conclusion he came to with as much experience as he should have had.
Details at this point aren't likely to matter or teach anyone any different than the advice already provided.
jelenko
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Not excusing - just reflecting.
When we handle firearms and shoot a lot, it's so easy to forget that there's 40-60K psi a few inches away.
As others have said, for me the most important thing is to always follow the basic rules of firearm safety and to stop if something isn't right. Just stop.
When we handle firearms and shoot a lot, it's so easy to forget that there's 40-60K psi a few inches away.
As others have said, for me the most important thing is to always follow the basic rules of firearm safety and to stop if something isn't right. Just stop.
Understandable, me too.
searcher
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I also don't look through my scope when fireforming. The rifle is on the rest, pointing safely down range into a dirt bank. No need to as not interested in the groups. Very important to always feel for that full recoil every time the trigger is pulled, whether fireforming or not. It is a good thing the corner of the bolt blew off. If it hadn't, you most likely would have faced a much harsher surprise, as the gas that was diverted out the corner of the bolt would have otherwise created huge pressure that the vent would likely not have been able to accommodate.
While the bolt is toast, I'd also be very suspect of the action. I doubt many gunsmiths would want to assure you that it is safe. What matters most is the integrity of the locking lug contact area. Hard to tell if it might have hairline crack, etc., that is not readily visible from the surface. I think if it were mine, I'd Sawzall it in half to be sure it could not be used.
I'd not pay much attention to those folks knocking you for admitting you made a mistake. It was a tough lesson learned. If we do make mistakes, let's hope we can all walk away from them with no one being seriously injured or worse.
Consider yourself fortunate!
Coyotefurharvester
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Was "fire forming brass", bullet seated into the lands. Minimal neck interference fit, primer pushes bullet further into barrel. Second rd loads, harder, but in a hurry because of seize fire approach. Second rd seats bullet back into case enough for bolt to close. Fires rd, BOOM. ?????
I just watched the video. That looks to me like a piece of brass with the bottom end exploded out the top and the primer cup laying there in the middle. I’d lift the bolt and beat it out. The neck can be seen and gas must have gotten around it because it doesn’t look expanded like I see when I look at brass in my chamber. There’s no bullets that I see.
47WillysGuy
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Looking at the pictures . Looks like the detonation blew the restrictions(bullets) out of the barrel and also taking part of the barrel chamber with them? All that’s left is part of the brass case, we must be looking inside of the case to the head end.
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