Stuck case in the chamber

[AlNyhus]

Glad you're okay and didn't lose an eye. Or your life. Thank goodness for shooting glasses.

Parts are just parts and can be replaced. At most, it's just some time and a bit of money. -Al

 

[moondog]

Costly lesson that could have cost more.
Bet it never happens to you again.

 

[itchyTF]

I will venture to say the barrel is trash. I made a big mistake some years ago. I was using one of those laser sighters that fit in the muzzle. SOMEHOW my routine got messed up and I forgot the thing was still in the muzzle when I fired a shot. Sounded odd and my chrono’s start sensor fell over. The result was It blew the brake off which hit the sensor. Gunsmith had to cut 3” off the end of the barrel. It was a 6mm bore and a bullet could be dropped in for an inch or so. The bore expanded that much.

 

[JSH]

I can’t say much more than what has already been said.
Squib, dud what ever you want to call it, anytime one experiences it alway check the bore before moving on.
Saw some of this during the big rush by newbies wanting ammo and reloading. Five bullets stuck in the barrel of a GP100! Six rounds in the gun, but the fifth one didn’t clear the cylinder. If it had been a S&W I doubt it would have made it past #2.

You have to crawl before you walk, you have to walk before you can run.
I really think you should step back and have a good look at your practices. There is an enormous amount of knowledge here and 99.8%want to help. If your looking for pitty ain’t gonna happen.

 

[LuvDog]

From the pictures/video, I don't see a stuck bullet. I agree that it looks like a ruptured case. I'm also wondering if the first round we under charged and still exited the barrel and your second round was over charged.

Glad you're relatively OK. You mention you could have been blind... please always wear eye protection. I don't know why a lot of people think it's fine to shoot a bolt gun without eye pro, but it's not.

 

[SSeal]

These pictures and your video show very clearly how the pressure took the path of least resistance and blew out at the extractor.. my guess is that on your previous round the primer pushed the bullet down the bore enough for the next one to chamber correctly. I'm betting the barrel is toast and the action isn't far behind.

 

[DGP4]

Glad you are OK! WE all make mistakes, and it is ok as long as it becomes a learning experience. Lots of good advice here from the experts. I'd toss the barrel and send the action back to the manufacturer for an assessment. Worst case they will give you a break on a replacement if it is necessary. Any time the round does not go bang, ALWAYS remove the bolt and look down the barrel. It looks like you rushed both the reloading and the shooting. Never a good idea. Stay safe!

 

[Kracken McGraw]

looks like the receiver ring is blown out """catastrophically"""" looks like action is history...but might not know what I'm lookin at also

Yes the shooter should be thankful he’s basically in one piece and breathing air. I would be glad if replacing that rifle was the only worry after that incident.

 

[6MMsteve]

when you have a case that doesn't go bang watch for back pressure when you open that bolt, a primer can make lot's of pressure and seal

 

[wkdickinson]

Here’s a simple action to start following. Anytime you experience a malfunction, visually inspect the barrel for obstructions before resuming shooting. It only takes a few seconds to remove/reinstall the bolt!

I would add - whenever ANYTHING unusual occurs while shooting, STOP immediately and figure out exactly what happened for sure and why it happened. If you can't, then quit for the day or until you are totally certain of the cause and the remedy.

 

[CaptainMal]

Back to your original question. I am shooting a rifle right now that I built from an action that had a "blow up". The guy put a 308 cartridge in his 270 Winchester. He split the barrel and got nailed with lots of gas, some stock and scope damage. Pissed - he gave me the rifle.

I threw the barrel away and bought a new bolt head (Savage) for the bolt. Action fine. Fixed the stock and made a great shooting 6.5 AI from it.

 

[Bill K]

Hi Everyone
I just had a bad incident at the range with my brand new rifle that I put together. that could have been worse.
Reloaded my ammo late last night.
Fired a few rounds today and everything was fine and last round didn’t go bang, extracted but didn’t look at the case, looks like there was no powder and primer ignition pushed the bullet into the rifling but I thought I extracted it and fired the next round and you know what happened after.
Defiance action, Bartlein heavy varmint 28” chambered in samii 6.5 creedmoor

Thanks Jesus I wasn’t looking through the scope otherwise I was blind now, ended up having to fragments from the brass into my shoulder. The bolt is frozen and I can barely pull it up.
I am going to send the barrel action toy gunsmith, do you guys have any experience if the action even worth using after this? Even if there is bo stuck bullet in the barrel? Will this barrel safe to use? How about accuracy?

Be safe you guys and always wear eye protection!

Thought you extracted the bullet ? Did you not see the bullet, nor look down the bore to see if it was clear, prior to firing another round ? Two major mistakes that could have caused more injury or worse.
You were very fortunate, if all you recieved was some brass bits and not major blow up of the action on your rifle.
For sure, have a good smith check the action and throw that barrel away and get another, if you put this back together again.

 

[linebaugh]

Here is what I gather from what you wrote. One of two things.
1.)Original bullet stuck in lands and you closed the bolt on the new round shoving the second bullet in the case. Should have felt resistance of some sort from the neck tension or crushing the powder in the case while shoving the second bullet in.

2.) You didnt have powder in that round and dbl charged with a faster burning powder. Probably very unlikely as I dont know of a loading that would allow this but you did say you were fire forming so??? Not enough information and this is possible.

For the extent of damage you describe I bet the action is junk and Defiance would be nuts to clear it for use. The extreme over presure likely pulled the threads to some degree and likely burst the breech diameter to some degree stressing the action diameter. Who knows what the lugs look like or any damage done there.
There are over pressure loads and there is catastrophic failure. Sounds like you are real close to the latter but nobody here really knows because the information needed is not and probably never will be known.

At the end of the day I am thankful that you are okay. You learned a very valuable lesson and you can be very thankful that it was mostly monitary.

 

[K22]

Lots of good advice offered here. I'll add my 2 cents.

1. Never, I mean never reload when you are in a hurry and have to rush things. This is formula for disaster.

2. Develop "fail safe" processes in your reloading procedures. For example, check all cases for powder before seating bullets, never have more than one can of powder on the bench top when reloading, double check, powder, charge, bullet before you start, i.e., do I have the correct components on the table and do I have the correct powder charge set.

3. At the range, make sure you have the correct ammo for the rifle you are going to shoot. Rarely do I shoot more one than one rifle at a range session but when I do, I only have the appropriate reloads out on the bench for the rifle I am shooting. The others are in the range box in their closed cartridge holder boxes.

4. If you encounter any unusual bolt lift, hard extraction, sound, recoil, or no impact on target, STOP, investigate. Never "test" the rifle / load by firing it until you determined the root cause of the unusual condition.

The bottom line is to be totally focused when reloading and at the range.

 

[K22]

Yes the shooter should be thankful he’s basically in one piece and breathing air. I would be glad if replacing that rifle was the only worry after that incident.

Yes, rifles, barrels, actions are much easier to replace than eyeballs.

 

[M-61]

Lots of good advice offered here. I'll add my 2 cents.

1. Never, I mean never reload when you are in a hurry and have to rush things. This is formula for disaster.

2. Develop "fail safe" processes in your reloading procedures. For example, check all cases for powder before seating bullets, never have more than one can of powder on the bench top when reloading, double check, powder, charge, bullet before you start, i.e., do I have the correct components on the table and do I have the correct powder charge set.

3. At the range, make sure you have the correct ammo for the rifle you are going to shoot. Rarely do I shoot more one than one rifle at a range session but when I do, I only have the appropriate reloads out on the bench for the rifle I am shooting. The others are in the range box in their closed cartridge holder boxes.

4. If you encounter any unusual bolt lift, hard extraction, sound, recoil, or no impact on target, STOP, investigate. Never "test" the rifle / load by firing it until you determined the root cause of the unusual condition.

The bottom line is to be totally focused when reloading and at the range.

Four excellent points. Really excellent.
I’ll add this: If you can not follow these 4 steps all the time, then this is not the sport for you. They are important and mandatory. In particular #4 really jumps out at me. STOP. You bet.
Unfortunately (for me or the OP, I don’t care) the OP took my many posts as smart ass or derogatory. No, I shouldn’t be posting at 3 AM, but I try very hard not to be sarcastic nor have an air of superiority. Just trying to help.
And I do know every point shouldn’t be made with a 2x4

 

[47WillysGuy]

Like I said before, I’m very glad you weren’t seriously hurt.

I would like to know what your load was, if I may?
Brass ?
Powder and grains?
Projectile?

 

[LVLAaron]

Take that barreled action and hang it up on your wall. Let it be a lesson you never forget.

 

[Chilly807]

I will venture to say the barrel is trash. I made a big mistake some years ago. I was using one of those laser sighters that fit in the muzzle. SOMEHOW my routine got messed up and I forgot the thing was still in the muzzle when I fired a shot. Sounded odd and my chrono’s start sensor fell over. The result was It blew the brake off which hit the sensor. Gunsmith had to cut 3” off the end of the barrel. It was a 6mm bore and a bullet could be dropped in for an inch or so. The bore expanded that much.

When I read your post, it reminded me of this barrel.

I was having a rifle re-barreled about 6 years ago at a local gunsmith.
He has this sitting in the corner of his shop.
New stainless 308 barrel on a custom rifle. The customer left the boresighter in the end of the barrel and fired one shot.
No idea whether the action survived.

 

[itchyTF]

When I read your post, it reminded me of this barrel.

I was having a rifle re-barreled about 6 years ago at a local gunsmith.
He has this sitting in the corner of his shop.
New stainless 308 barrel on a custom rifle. The customer left the boresighter in the end of the barrel and fired one shot.
No idea whether the action survived.

My barrel didn’t split fortunately but the muzzle ID grew a little. Bore sighter still stuck in the brake.