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Southerners on Ice and TN Snowfall

wildcatter said:
That's the biggest differance in snow, super cold dry snow is usually associated with perspiration amounts of 1" snow can be less than .1" of rain water if rain, but in warmer 32* is degree weather when snow is like slush, it can be 3 to 4" of water creating .1" this heavier more treacherous snow to drive in packs like ice, and throws you around in its tracks because it's so heavy. Wider tires are harder to roll thru it, going in and out of tracks throws the vehicle out of control easier. Where light powder won't.

4" of snow so cold it won't pack can be lighter than .4" of water, or wet heavey 4" that is soft and packs ice hard can wiegh as much as 1.5 to 2" of water. Same depth of snow, but 4 to 5 times more water to make it.

This is what NW Ohio and Southern Michigagan got here. 1.4" of precip, made a little over 1" of snow on grass, less on pavement, that's what made the roads more dangerous, as soon as on track was laid, it's now ice surrounded by slush, when you start sliding, your tires compress that slush as it crosses over it making its own ice over the hard smooth surface under it. The bigger the tire, the more surface it contackts. The more this is promoted.

The wet snow is the most dangerous, light powder falling in single digits is pretty easy to drive in, even 4 to 6 inches of this powder is better than 1 or 2 inches of wet snow for controlling the vehicle in.
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It's the wet, heavy snow that we most often get in this part of the country. It's a lot different to drive in. This last bit of snow we got was the cold powdery stuff, for the most part, due to this artic front that has had so much of the country in the deep freeze.
On the flip side, looks like we're supposed to get snow, sleet, freezing rain and possibly just rain, later today and into tomorrow. That should be just a joy. Hopefully we can keep power. If not, I'll get the generator hooked to the tractor and light things back up. Gas heat, so won't get cold but I need to keep working if possible and electricity is just handy stuff, all the way around. Lol!
 
gunsandgunsmithing said:
It's the wet, heavy snow that we most often get in this part of the country. It's a lot different to drive in. This last bit of snow we got was the cold powdery stuff, for the most part, due to this artic front that has had so much of the country in the deep freeze.
On the flip side, looks like we're supposed to get snow, sleet, freezing rain and possibly just rain, later today and into tomorrow. That should be just a joy. Hopefully we can keep power. If not, I'll get the generator hooked to the tractor and light things back up. Gas heat, so won't get cold but I need to keep working if possible and electricity is just handy stuff, all the way around. Lol!
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I have had my generator sitting under the awning since all this started. We lost power twice so far but only for half the night so it’s not been to bad yet. Not looking forward to this freezing stuff tonight, roads are bad enough. Mom in law has frozen pipes this morning in a bathroom that has never frozen but I can’t remember it being this cold for this long here. I am wondering if this is gonna be the norm now since we had negative temps last year and this year.
 
gunsandgunsmithing said:
On the flip side, looks like we're supposed to get snow, sleet, freezing rain and possibly just rain, later today and into tomorrow. That should be just a joy. Hopefully we can keep power. If not, I'll get the generator hooked to the tractor and light things back up.
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This is another issue with heavy wet snow, it sticks to everything, wires branches its hard on later roofs with all its wieght. Then add wind and wires and branches start whipping back and forth and it causes a lot more damage.

I learned early in life how important a generator was. It keeps life easy no mater if it's weather related power outages, or a squirrel or raccon shorting out the substation. Having a generator means you always have heat water and everything you home needs to operate no matter the weather. But even gas heat needs electricity to run the furnace and blow the heat.

One other thing I have in the pantry is 2 6 gallon jugs of water, with city water, all it takes is a common main break in the winter to be without. We only drink purified water, but it's nice to flush the toilet if needed.

In 40 years living here, we have had water freeze twice, both times was below zero, no snow to insulate the ground, and the water meter outside in the meter pit froze. Now anytime it's below -5* we let a faucet drip at night or if we are gone. If we are here water gets run enough thought the day to keep enough movement not to worry about it.
 
GotRDid said:
Kentucky, my High School senior year….
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man, you're a young'un...

i went to school in the U.P. half way through the winter we got to cut back on shoveling because the banks along the walkway to the street were high enough to lay 4x8 ply on top and make a tunnel. then you could go out either the door or the second story window. hahaha

they had a snow-mometer at the airport (like the united way deals back in the day). it was 20' tall and i do remember the pointer being pushed up past 200+ inches.
 
wildcatter said:
Well wish I had a little more snow, but dam after 4 years forgot how nice 5" of ice was! My hope is we keep at least these single digits and the winds stays wowed. I love this, and want the ice to stick around a couple months.

We used to have safe fishing ice 3.5 to 4 months out of the year. Last 4 we have not had a month of decent ice to get on. The last two of them I couldn't even get on what we had the 2 or three weeks some were able to get on because of shoulder and knee replacements. With both I was told if I screwed them up, there was no fixing them.

Well today I made a test run to the lake, ours is the one with the most springs, when it's good the two bigger lakes are great. 5" was never so much fun drilling. I think Carter liked it better than me, he has looked at me like "sucks to be you, but why can't I go play on it" the last 4 years. He flat wanted to stay and I had to stay on him to go.
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I'll be putting the guns away as long as it last, and breaking out the ice rods and tipups, forget shooting. I just worry it will only be a week or so, as 5 days ago it was open water, and Monday the 30's are back and 40's are being predicted the rest of the week, that my friends sucks Fer this old man. I don't like the 30 and 40 below wind chills but I'll take -5 to -10, if it means I don't have to play in the mud and no ice again this time of year!
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Nice pics!
 
wildcatter said:
That's the biggest differance in snow, super cold dry snow is usually associated with perspiration amounts of 1" snow can be less than .1" of rain water if rain, but in warmer 32* is degree weather when snow is like slush, it can be 3 to 4" of water creating .1" this heavier more treacherous snow to drive in packs like ice, and throws you around in its tracks because it's so heavy. Wider tires are harder to roll thru it, going in and out of tracks throws the vehicle out of control easier. Where light powder won't.

4" of snow so cold it won't pack can be lighter than .4" of water, or wet heavey 4" that is soft and packs ice hard can wiegh as much as 1.5 to 2" of water. Same depth of snow, but 4 to 5 times more water to make it.

This is what NW Ohio and Southern Michigagan got here. 1.4" of precip, made a little over 1" of snow on grass, less on pavement, that's what made the roads more dangerous, as soon as on track was laid, it's now ice surrounded by slush, when you start sliding, your tires compress that slush as it crosses over it making its own ice over the hard smooth surface under it. The bigger the tire, the more surface it contackts. The more this is promoted.

The wet snow is the most dangerous, light powder falling in single digits is pretty easy to drive in, even 4 to 6 inches of this powder is better than 1 or 2 inches of wet snow for controlling the vehicle in.
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Very true. Learned more about snow than I ever wanted to know the year I was stationed in Galena, AK. I was there, Apr '92 - Apr '93, and had a record snowfall of 120". Everyone had a 30day mid-tour break, I opted to take mine in two 15day breaks, came home in Aug and again for Christmas/New Year's. It was snowing when I left, raining at SeaTac, and snowing when I arrived in Spokane, snowed every day I was home. Had close to 3' here and had to have my neighbor come over with his backhoe to clear the driveway. Few days before I returned called my techs to find out how things were and they told me day after I left temps went above freezing and stayed that way. Some locals fell through the ice on snowmobile from soft spots on the Yukon. Day I returned it was -30 again.

I enjoyed my time there but was sure happy to go home, 5mos after I left the mission shutdown. I came "this" close to being extended involuntarily...
 
Eric Leonard said:
Off my front porch on the Jackson/Smith Co Tn line.
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Pretty! Looks like ya'll did get a little more down there. I'm ready for this stuff to melt off. It's been hanging around for too long. I think it's supposed to get above freezing either tomorrow of Monday. We had just around freezing for a day but that just melted it down enough that it's just ice now, after re-freezing solid pretty much. At least the roads are clear here. I haven't been out much so haven't seen much of the back roads. I'm in the country but they do a pretty good job of salting and clearing it off these days. Not long ago, they did our road after it was all melted. I guess we've moved up the priority list. I'm sure if we get a big snow, they'll get behind but this one gave them plenty of time and they did a good job on it. I didn't have to hook the grader blade up. I call that good.
 
ttfreestyle said:
So tomorrow I’m gonna try my hand at ice fishing in my pond. Its 8 degrees right now and supposed to be negative again tonight, I dunno when last time it was above freezing.
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I've never been. I did fall through the ice on a pond when I was a kid. Scared me pretty good. I went under the ice. One of those moments I won't ever forget. The pond was behind our house about 200 yards. It was a cold walk..or run back to the house. I remember that too.
 
gunsandgunsmithing said:
Pretty! Looks like ya'll did get a little more down there. I'm ready for this stuff to melt off. It's been hanging around for too long. I think it's supposed to get above freezing either tomorrow of Monday. We had just around freezing for a day but that just melted it down enough that it's just ice now, after re-freezing solid pretty much. At least the roads are clear here. I haven't been out much so haven't seen much of the back roads. I'm in the country but they do a pretty good job of salting and clearing it off these days. Not long ago, they did our road after it was all melted. I guess we've moved up the priority list. I'm sure if we get a big snow, they'll get behind but this one gave them plenty of time and they did a good job on it. I didn't have to hook the grader blade up. I call that good.
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There was 8” here. It was -15 Wed morning at 6
 
Eric Leonard said:
There was 8” here. It was -15 Wed morning at 6
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I never heard a total here and kinda hard to say. I'd guess maybe 4" total. It just won't leave! I need one more snow and a good freeze in about 2-4 weeks. Gonna try frost seeding some red clover over about 30 acres of hay ground. Never frost seeded clover before and just gonna cross my fingers and hope. I don't need or want much. Ideal would be about 20-25% stand in the field. Just looking to fix nitrogen and work the top layer a bit..and add a little protein and mass to the hay.

I'd like to seed over 2-3 inches of snow.
 
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