Mmmmmm. About 5-10 minute with the remages I've done. [I'm assuming that we're both starting with with enough of the stock/chassis removed to get at barrel] That's longer than 2-3, but it's with $300 barrel that I can buy from several different suppliers.
Mike I swear we just had this conversation a couple few weeks ago.My apologies, I should have worded that better. I meant to say it's a chore to swap and have it headspace the exact same. I tried many times, and could never do it 'easily'. I'm an idiot though, so take that into account.
With shouldered barrels, I don't even pull the scope off the action, or the action out of the stock. With an electric impact, I bet you could swap one in under a minute.
@Alex Wheeler
OK. That is easier. For remages, you do need to get at the barrel nut. So, add another almost 10 minutes to get the stock off/back on.My apologies, I should have worded that better. I meant to say it's a chore to swap and have it headspace the exact same. I tried many times, and could never do it 'easily'. I'm an idiot though, so take that into account.
With shouldered barrels, I don't even pull the scope off the action, or the action out of the stock. With an electric impact, I bet you could swap one in under a minute.
Tommie n me were laughing our asses off over this phopah, this evening.
That was a Hart barrel not CBI or Savage like mentioned. Savage actions can shoot, they do have other issues that hold them back.
I didn't say .2s I said 2's. As in 2" at 1k. At 100, you still expect zeros and ones if you tune there. Also I kind of disagree on your other point I think the further you go the more you are relying on the tune because the conditions get harder and harder to read. At 100 yd a good flag reader can actually read all of the conditions. I could show up with the best PPC on the line and I'm not going to win. But if I show up with the best shooting 1k gun I have a chance.
10-4.....I thought your comment was inclusive of Savage actions and you may not have known about Tim's win in 2003.
^^^^^^You BR boys can fight amongst yourselves.
I'll just say that nutted setups give the illusion of switch barrel capability. The reality is, nutted barrels are a pain in the ass to headspace the exact same way every time. I know somebody will be along to tell me they swap barrels on their savage to within .0001 every time, I just know I was never able to.
What it really does is prevent you from having to go to the gun smith to get a new barrel, but you end up with the thing on there until its shot out, because it's such a chore to swap barrels.
Shouldered barrels are true "switch barrel rigs". Takes ~2-3 minutes, and it's the exact same every single time.
Ultimately though, the right answer is to give your smith your action as many times as he needs. You'll usually end up with a better result...at least in my experience.
Edit: BTW - I doubt anyone asking this question is planning to shoot BR. If so, they'll find out about barrel nuts and pre-fits the expensive way.
That combination of Tim's had some magic dust sprinkled on it. I don't think he ever duplicated that level of performance again. Any of us that have competed over the years have had special combinations. A great marriage between barrel and bullet is fun fun fun.
Most of the time when a guy asks something regarding accuracy the topic ends up on BR rifles. Thats because thats where we learn everything from. Most of the stuff I know and apply to all rifles I learned from BR rifles. Without my involvement in BR I wouldnt be able to build a hunting or varmint rifle as accurate. I just wouldnt have learned the finer points. So dont take it like all we care about is BR, I really love tuning up the magnums and sporters, but its hard to learn about raw accuracy from them.
Amen Brother. It's the crucible where things are quickly sorted out or in.
@DaveTooley
Oh he made a point of telling me how he shot in IA as we were loading my truck.
