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Nomad47 said:
It's a steal at $700. ;D

There you go Carolina Man, haggle on the price a little and turn around and make a profit with Nomad as I'm sure he would even pay $800.00 if it's such a steal at $700.00. ;)
 
You know, before I ever started reading this thread, I just knew Erik would be posting negative comments and slamming Savages.
 
Nomad47 said:
You know, before I ever started reading this thread, I just knew Erik would be posting negative comments and slamming Savages.

Bill, they are not negative comments, they are the truth! Or are you going to tell me Savage has never been known for having bad triggers?

The OP asked about Savage rifles and I'm telling him the truth. Is any of what I said so far not true?
 
I call it full disclosure. The op has experience with benchguns with jewel triggers. Pretty difficult to enjoy shooting a rifle with a sub-par trigger after you are used to one of the best triggers on the market.
If I had to adjust a trigger down to the point where it is unsafe and unpredictable.....I simply wouldn't own such a rifle.
 
LHSmith said:
I call it full disclosure. The op has experience with benchguns with jewel triggers. Pretty difficult to enjoy shooting a rifle with a sub-par trigger after you are used to one of the best triggers on the market.
If I had to adjust a trigger down to the point where it is unsafe and unpredictable.....I simply wouldn't own such a rifle.

I agree 100%
 
I have mine accu trigger set to low as it will go. I have not had any issues with decocking or not being crisp. Its hard to a savage out of the box factory for accuracy and price. For the money and what your wallet can afford it is hard to beat. I would stay within the mod 12 line of savages. Don't pay attention to Eric to him if isnt a custom its garbage.
 
gaboon said:
I have mine accu trigger set to low as it will go. I have not had any issues with decocking or not being crisp. Its hard to a savage out of the box factory for accuracy and price. For the money and what your wallet can afford it is hard to beat. I would stay within the mod 12 line of savages. Don't pay attention to Erik to him if isnt a custom its garbage.

Not true, I have rifles built on Remington actions and you guessed it, Jewell triggers.
 
Erik Cortina said:
Nomad47 said:
You know, before I ever started reading this thread, I just knew Erik would be posting negative comments and slamming Savages.

Bill, they are not negative comments, they are the truth! Or are you going to tell me Savage has never been known for having bad triggers?

The OP asked about Savage rifles and I'm telling him the truth. Is any of what I said so far not true?
Yes.
 
Nomad47 said:
Erik Cortina said:
Nomad47 said:
You know, before I ever started reading this thread, I just knew Erik would be posting negative comments and slamming Savages.

Bill, they are not negative comments, they are the truth! Or are you going to tell me Savage has never been known for having bad triggers?

The OP asked about Savage rifles and I'm telling him the truth. Is any of what I said so far not true?
Yes.

Ok, which part?
 
Nomad47 said:
I currently own a Jewell trigger and a Savage trigger. I have no problems or issues with either one.

Are they set at the same settings? Can you slam the bolt closed on the Salvage if you set it as low as the Jewell?
 
This part. That is just your opinion, not fact.

Erik Cortina said:
They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

If you can buy it cheap, to for it, but don't expect it to be tight nor smooth.
 
Erik Cortina said:
Nomad47 said:
I currently own a Jewell trigger and a Savage trigger. I have no problems or issues with either one.

Are they set at the same settings? Can you slam the bolt closed on the Salvage is you set it as low as the Jewell?

I don't SLAM bolts, so your question is irrelevant.
 
Nomad47 said:
Erik Cortina said:
Nomad47 said:
I currently own a Jewell trigger and a Savage trigger. I have no problems or issues with either one.

Are they set at the same settings? Can you slam the bolt closed on the Salvage is you set it as low as the Jewell?

I don't SLAM bolts, so your question is irrelevant.

It is not irrelevant, that's how you do a safety check on a trigger.
 
Nomad47 said:
This part. That is just your opinion, not fact.

Erik Cortina said:
They have a horrible trigger system, one or the worse on the market.

If you can buy it cheap, to for it, but don't expect it to be tight nor smooth.

How many Hall of Fame BR shooters do you think made into the Hall of Fame with a Savage? At what point do you consider a fact a fact?

Can you set a Savage trigger safely to 1.5 oz? The answer is no, the reason is their inferior trigger system. FACT!
 
And you should know that the Savage blade system prevents it from mis-firing.

I have twice as much invested in my custom as I have in my Savage. The custom is nice BUT it is NOT twice the rifle.

Erik, why do you insist on comparing factory Savages to full custom rifles? I'm done. Keep right on bashing Savages while my opinion of you keeps going right on down with every comment you make.
 
Nomad47 said:
And you should know that the Savage blade system prevents it from mis-firing.

I have twice as much invested in my custom as I have in my Savage. The custom is nice BUT it is NOT twice the rifle.

Erik, why do you insist on comparing factory Savages to full custom rifles? I'm done. Keep right on bashing Savages while my opinion of you keeps going right on down with every comment you make.

I know it prevents it from mis-firing, and I said that earlier, but it will de-cock.

I'm just telling the truth and you know I am, that's why you have no argument. You accused me of not speaking the truth and I came right back and proved you wrong.

All I tried to do is inform the OP of what a Savage really is, but some of you get your feelings hurt over it, which I don't understand. None of what I said is a lie nor bashing, it's simply the truth.
 
I own a Savage F-Class. It was my first F-Class rifle, and I have to share Erik's opinion of the trigger system.

Bone stock, it's safe, but it's prone to "premature de-cocking", especially when guys set it down low. I saw it with my rifle and have seen a dozen others on the line with the same problem. One of the more frustrating things that can happen on the line. The solution is to not set it so low, but my experience is that it needs to be set at about 1#. Not optimal.

I have also seen a bunch of folks (myself included) install the Rifle Basix trigger. Having no decocking safety mechanism, it isn't as safe, and have seen more than a couple slam fire. Again the solution is not to set it so low. I can't get mine below 14oz or so and have any confidence in it. Even above that I'm a little leary. It's inconsistent to boot.

The other solution is the SSS, and the internet is littered with reports of bad experience with those folks. They might be fine people, but their business practices are unprofessional to say the least.

The savage is what it is. A fine entry level competition rifle, but the trigger system is its Achilles' heal. Shoot an action with a Jewell trigger and the difference is huge. Yes it costs more money to go this way. It's worth it.

-nosualc
 
Sounds like what the problem is, is Jewell doesn't make a trigger for the Savage action, nobody is extolling the virtues of the Remington factory trigger on the thread, just comparing the Savage options to the Jewell triggers.
 

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