Ruger RXM Glock Clone Pistol

[Kracken McGraw]

https://www.brownells.com/guns/handguns/semi-auto-handguns/rxm-9mm-luger-semi-auto-handgun/?

Is this Ruger’s attempt to get into the Glock market?

 

[Dgd6mm]

Could be.
Stoeger is trying with the STR9.

 

[CJ6]

I wonder if the FCG is the FFL part ala Sig.

 

[Knotwild]

These Glock clones and other striker fired 9s must have a strong profit margin. Seems like everybody's got one.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Heck, it looks nice for the price point.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Another plastic pistol. Absolutely no interest here, but I'm a lifelong carrier/user of the 1911 and BHP, so there's that.

 

[shoot4fun]

These Glock clones and other striker fired 9s must have a strong profit margin. Seems like everybody's got one.

First, to answer your thoughts on margin, YES they do but it is the same (or very near) margin most manufacturers put on every firearm in their line. I was privy to those numbers but have not cared an iota since my retirement from the business in 2014.
The "everybody's got one" applies not only to firearms manufacturers but to millions (yes millions) of these "plastic fantastic" guns in the hands of American gun owners. Those who have resisted aka @Rick in Oregon are getting scarce due to the fact that I know and have spoken to a very high percentage of die hard metal frame semiautomatic pistoleros who also own something dishwasher safe.

 

[Steve Donlon]

The way I look at them is like most stuff made now days, they are disposable, not like a 1911 or other steel frame pistol. Nothing wrong with having a pistol you don't mind losing.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

What’s the purpose of the removable fire control group?

 

[TonyinKY]

The serial number is on the fire control group so you can switch out every other part which includes frame and slide.

What’s the purpose of the removable fire control group?

 

[Kracken McGraw]

The serial number is on the fire control group so you can switch out every other part which includes frame and slide.

Looks like Magpul is invested in this pistol too.

 

[shoot4fun]

Looks like Magpul is invested in this pistol too.

What’s the purpose of the removable fire control group?

You are answering your own question in a way.
With Magpul's involvement there will be a myriad of frame sizes and grip options (not to mention colors).
Sig did similar with their P320.
I would also expect some enterprising company (Apex for one) will be offering some very nice kit as far as trigger components.

 

[ebb]

There must be a dozen Glock clones, many I've never heard of and had no idea Ruger had built one. ZRO, Lone Wolf, Polymer 80, Mossberg MC2, Shadow Systems, those were just the ones I knew about. Then i found this. https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-glock-clones/ My daughter has a PSA Dagger and likes it. Most make a full sized 19 frame, a compact, and a micro

 

[Knotwild]

First, to answer your thoughts on margin, YES they do but it is the same (or very near) margin most manufacturers put on every firearm in their line. I was privy to those numbers but have not cared an iota since my retirement from the business in 2014.
The "everybody's got one" applies not only to firearms manufacturers but to millions (yes millions) of these "plastic fantastic" guns in the hands of American gun owners. Those who have resisted aka @Rick in Oregon are getting scarce due to the fact that I know and have spoken to a very high percentage of die hard metal frame semiautomatic pistoleros who also own something dishwasher safe.

Ok, I think I see now. The profit margin is the same, but they are cheap, so they sell more of them. Based on what I know (very little) about the retail world, it I can turn a high number of cheap guns, I can make more money. But if I have something like a quality 1911, it is probably going to sit on the shelf tying up my money until it sells, so I have to have a higher margin. I see PSA is flooding them out the door by holding sales regularly. I think that today's technology allows them to make them cheaper than I can even imagine. So, the next step in the game is to have a gimmik to allow you to sell more than the competition.

This quote from the 1911 forum in 2013 kind of sums up my thoughts.
"I've heard from reliable sources on this forum that Glocks only cost $85.00 to make, but sell for $500. That's probably more of a margin than most 1911s."

This is also within the range quoted on the Glock Talk Forum.

 

[shoot4fun]

Ok, I think I see now. The profit margin is the same, but they are cheap, so they sell more of them. Based on what I know (very little) about the retail world, it I can turn a high number of cheap guns, I can make more money. But if I have something like a quality 1911, it is probably going to sit on the shelf tying up my money until it sells, so I have to have a higher margin. I see PSA is flooding them out the door by holding sales regularly. I think that today's technology allows them to make them cheaper than I can even imagine. So, the next step in the game is to have a gimmik to allow you to sell more than the competition.

This quote from the 1911 forum in 2013 kind of sums up my thoughts.
"I've heard from reliable sources on this forum that Glocks only cost $85.00 to make, but sell for $500. That's probably more of a margin than most 1911s."

This is also within the range quoted on the Glock Talk Forum.

part of my duties as a Factory Rep was to help dealers improve in areas so they not only increased sales but the margin from those sales. A quality gun shop should always have what is considered "core product" for their area and, further, they should keep a few of those on hand in the back room instead of how many dealers operated with a "one to show and one to go" mentality. One should always have something special. A couple 1911's, upper end rifles, etc. Just don't tie up all the working capital in $10k shotguns that will sit on the rack for five years. Also, I worked to make sure sales associates had product knowledge of all my product so they could offer reasons why a potential customer should buy mine over brand G just because it was $30 less. Lastly, don't get caught up in the euphoria of "I just made a sale". Make sure you upsell (or try to) with holster, ammo, cleaning kits, etc because that is where the bigger margins are.
Lastly, I didn't want to put any numbers in my original post on margins but, to address your statement, the numbers I knew back ten years ago were even less than that $85.
I would sometimes ask my dealers "When you started buy Glocks from distributors in the late 80's they were $4xx each and today you still pay that same exact price. Was Glock screwing you over then, now or both?"

 

[outasite`08]

Just buy a Glock and be done with it. Jeff

 

[Forum Boss]

Odd that Ruger would copy the key feature of Glock that definitely needed re-design. A couple decades ago I did a lot of pistol shooting, including local IDPA matches. I helped the club train new pistol shooters from 18-65, male and female, some experienced, many newbies. I would say that 90+% of all the shooters I trained shot noticeably better with my SIG p226 than with my Glock 17. Bottom line, the Glock grip doesn't conform well to the human hand. It tended to make people shoot off-center with less control over recoil. The flare at the rear base of the grip also caused vertical issues. Plus the stock sights weren't the best. Glocks WERE reliable though. But the grip ergonomics were bad for most shooters, no question about it...

I've owned multiple Glocks over the years 17, 19, 17L (long barrel), 23 (40sw), but eventually got rid of all of them. I also found that you could shoot 5 different Glocks of the very same model and vintage but the triggers varied significantly. My G23 actually had the best trigger -- totally stock, but it was crisp and very repeatable.

 

[CJ6]

Odd that Ruger would copy the key feature of Glock that definitely needed re-design. A couple decades ago I did a lot of pistol shooting, including local IDPA matches. I helped the club train new pistol shooters from 18-65, male and female, some experienced, many newbies. I would say that 90+% of all the shooters I trained shot noticeably better with my SIG p226 than with my Glock 17. Bottom line, the Glock grip doesn't conform well to the human hand. It tended to make people shoot off-center with less control over recoil. The flare at the rear base of the grip also caused vertical issues. Plus the stock sights weren't the best. Glocks WERE reliable though. But the grip ergonomics were bad for most shooters, no question about it...

I've owned multiple Glocks over the years 17, 19, 17L (long barrel), 23 (40sw), but eventually got rid of all of them. I also found that you could shoot 5 different Glocks of the very same model and vintage but the triggers varied significantly. My G23 actually had the best trigger -- totally stock, but it was crisp and very repeatable.

View attachment 1613577

Love my Sigs.
As you said, the Sigs just fit the hands. That was my reason for buying my first Sig back in the 80s.

 

[nakneker]

Glock let their patent lapse and then came the clones like the Dagger and such. Can’t blame anybody for copying one of the most successful pistols ever created, not sure that’s what Ruger is doing but it looks like that way..

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I kinda like the Ruger products produced in Prescott. This may be good for them as a cheaper alternative to the Glock. I haven’t compared sizes yet, if this one is like a G19 or G17?