Rimfire- Accuracy

[foxguy]

Rimfire, I have shot F-Class 50 yards and 100 yards.
for those reason my minimum expectation for ammo is to be able to shoot / hold
.5 moa for 50 yards. and appx 1 moa for 100 yards.

Thanks everyone for sharing your rimfire shooting expectations.

 

[butchlambert]

Do any of you compete?

 

[1911nut]

Here’s a target from today, Bergara B14 shooting off an Atlas bipod and mechanical rear rest. Testing 3 brands of Lapua ammo.

Five shot groups except the first target which was 10 shots at 50yds.

Personal best shooting 4 and 1’s

 

[1Merlin]

What distance? 1911nut

 

[1911nut]

What distance? 1911nut

50 yds

 

[BowChamp]

Do any of you compete?

Yes Sir Mr. Butch, I do.

 

[foxguy]

Do any of you compete?

No Local formal competition. I enjoy shooting some 100 yard informal matches locally.
25-30 shooters and they all pretty much shoot custom rifles or custom barrels.
1/8 " x dot, .450 5-ring, .900 4-ring, 1.250 3-ring. 5 shots for score, most shooters shooting in the 20 something. So 25 possible, W 5-X's.

 

[Timnichols]

As said before, I think shooting a 5 shot group is pretty easy but shooting a usbr target for score will humble you!

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

I rescued a M12 from Cali. Put a Sightron 4-20 stac moa2 scope on it after adjusting the trigger down to 18oz. Cleaning it resulted in removing a bunch of fine white sand(bore and between stock/action). I have one lot of 80 boxes of Norma tac22(black). Scope is not quite plumb, probably not staying on it anyway. Here is my cheap starter 100 yards shooting setup. X/10 ring 0.750 inch. Not in pic sling loop/stud needs removing, in way of protector bag. Need to find aperture sights to shoot both 100 yard matches. May put a bull barrel Sims deresonator on it for testing. Can tell I need a good front rest, may have to make one.

 

[dusterdave173]

We tested a new technique today at 50 yds with our MTR's --we shoot all kinds of matches--working to get good at ARA so...
Today we decided maybe it is our trigger pull--my 70 plus yr old partner has hands the size of a bear--I watched him shoot practice and said hey--why don't we try and "pinch " the trigger? So we got the set up just right using rear bag and Mystic bipods--a very solid set up--we would get the dot right on the bull and sort of like an Unlimited we just reached around and pinched the trigger --thumb on trigger guard and finger on the trigger--Oh wow! It worked Great! Both rifles shot very tight groups with 3 lots of ammo---it seems maybe we have been blaming lots of trouble on ammo lots, cleaning etc we both shot really nice tight groups today
22's are one tough assignment

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

The factory trigger will not lower safely for the pinch, I don't think. If I can get the Herb Smith modification(2 oz to 16oz range), it maybe possible. For the matches I shoot, no bipod, no 1 piece rest. So not sure how zero hold/trigger pinch could work. Could use/need an adjustable front rest(joy stick possibly). Considering pillars/bedding the action, do rimfire rifles benefit from bedding? Currently 15 inch pounds on the action screws.

 

[jelenko]

We tested a new technique today at 50 yds with our MTR's --we shoot all kinds of matches--working to get good at ARA so...
Today we decided maybe it is our trigger pull--my 70 plus yr old partner has hands the size of a bear--I watched him shoot practice and said hey--why don't we try and "pinch " the trigger? So we got the set up just right using rear bag and Mystic bipods--a very solid set up--we would get the dot right on the bull and sort of like an Unlimited we just reached around and pinched the trigger --thumb on trigger guard and finger on the trigger--Oh wow! It worked Great! Both rifles shot very tight groups with 3 lots of ammo---it seems maybe we have been blaming lots of trouble on ammo lots, cleaning etc we both shot really nice tight groups today
22's are one tough assignment

Please update us as you continue using the pinch method.

 

[Blue-Mule]

Considering pillars/bedding the action, do rimfire rifles benefit from bedding? Currently 15 inch pounds on the action screws.

Absolutely, in the mechanical aspects, rimfires are the same as a centerfire.

firing pin springs, timing, true actions, bedding, lock up.... all essensially the same.

 

[COLT45SA]

We tested a new technique today at 50 yds with our MTR's --we shoot all kinds of matches--working to get good at ARA so...
Today we decided maybe it is our trigger pull--my 70 plus yr old partner has hands the size of a bear--I watched him shoot practice and said hey--why don't we try and "pinch " the trigger? So we got the set up just right using rear bag and Mystic bipods--a very solid set up--we would get the dot right on the bull and sort of like an Unlimited we just reached around and pinched the trigger --thumb on trigger guard and finger on the trigger--Oh wow! It worked Great! Both rifles shot very tight groups with 3 lots of ammo---it seems maybe we have been blaming lots of trouble on ammo lots, cleaning etc we both shot really nice tight groups today
22's are one tough assignment

I discovered that method of pulling the trigger some time back. For me it was just logical that when your hand engages with the thumb around the wrist of the rifle, inadvertent or unintended squeezing can and most likely will introduce a barely perceptible movement of the bore off of the point of aim.

 

[dusterdave173]

I discovered that method of pulling the trigger some time back. For me it was just logical that when your hand engages with the thumb around the wrist of the rifle, inadvertent or unintended squeezing can and most likely will introduce a barely perceptible movement of the bore off of the point of aim.

Yes! my shooting pal has hands the size of a bear paw--we finally figured out he was having a hard time being consistent with his trigger pull--he only shoots 50 yd bench ARA--this technique has given him a new smile--all his doubts about rifle/ammo/etc have vanished--he is excited to attend the next match

I will admit I am not a fan of the technique from a purist standpoint but hey--if it is the way to win or get better aggs then I am IN I will shoot old school on another playing field

 

[dusterdave173]

Please update us as you continue using the pinch method.

Will do! Pictures with the next match we shoot Thanks

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

DD are you guys shooting free recoil(no stock contact) while pinch firing?

 

[COLT45SA]

DD are you guys shooting free recoil(no stock contact) while pinch firing?

es. With free recoiling in a .22LR there is no perceptible recoil and the 6mm PPC recoil is not really a factor I IMHO).

 

[1Merlin]

My CZ 457 MTR with a 5# bipod on a pair of split steel plates recoils backwards about an inch using a pinch on the trigger. I use a PQP mechanical rear rest. If you tense up a little with your 'pinch" fingers it causes the rifle to move to the rear slower and less and throws the shot high(er) by as much as a half inch. If you don't think a 22 RF has recoil place the rifle butt against the bridge of your nose and (pointed safely) pull the trigger.

 

[BowChamp]

My CZ 457 MTR with a 5# bipod on a pair of split steel plates recoils backwards about an inch using a pinch on the trigger. I use a PQP mechanical rear rest. If you tense up a little with your 'pinch" fingers it causes the rifle to move to the rear slower and less and throws the shot high(er) by as much as a half inch. If you don't think a 22 RF has recoil place the rifle butt against the bridge of your nose and (pointed safely) pull the trigger.

Speaking from experience!?!?!?!?!