Seeing the steady decline of Remington quality control over the years I have to say that my "next one" will be a custom something. If you could still get the kind of 700 action that was found on late 70's early 80's stuff I would say to go that route. Even back then, the barrels were a 50/50 chance, but the action was pretty decent. Now, you can just go ahead and make a property line marker out of the barrel right off the bat. I wouldn't even bother to try and pawn that junk off on someone else. Even the triggers...40 years ago you could pretty much swap out a spring and adjust the trigger right on down to 1 1/2-2 pounds....I cannot understand how they can include the word "precision" today with a trigger that adjusts from 14 all the way down to 9 pounds!!!!
Remington- Buy complete rifle or action then build?
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The Howa looks very interesting,I had never really considered a barreled action from them ...you have me thinking now .Having a workable trigger out of the box is a big plus . Thanks for the heads up.
Learn to read the wind, reload and shoot before you dump money into a custom or semi custom rifle! Any other advice not in this order is nonsense and should be ignored!
How smooth the action feels means nothing when talking about accuracy or accuracy potential! If anyone talks stiffness of the action especialy based on length they are a moron and yo need to run away from them. If any of that was true all the winners would be using Rolling Blocks, Single Shot Break Actions, Cannon style breeches and the like not bolt actions.
Dump a ton of money into reloading and get to range and shot a few times a week! When I was at my best in college I was going to the range 3-5 days a week. I was getting quality shooting in with rifle, shotgun and pistol each trip to the range.
Get a mentor in the sport you want do that is already at a very high level and model yourself on him!
If someone can not tell you specifically what makes a "custom" action better than a blue printed factory action with some guarantee and professional responsibility as in you get to sue them if they do not deliver on what they are selling or promising. Talk is cheap if it can not be measured and repeatedly reproduced. Tell me exactly what level of concentrically that action is being held to and what I get if the one you sell me is not with in specification!! Things like "It's Better" "They have tighter clearances" "They have less tolerance stacking". All of that might be true but it does not mean it is significant enough to be worth it or that it is better. It is like one hunter telling another hunter that his match grade barrel is better and more accurate than his friends because it was wait for it "air gauged"! For that matter what exactly equals "match grade"??? If precision matters than an industry has standards that are well defined and they hold themselves to best practices. When they do not do that as an industry they are just blowing smoke!
If you want magic take up esoteric things and religion if you want facts about what makes for an accurate rifle that engineering is all well known and fully understood. Have fun getting that info out of the ones with the knowledge this hobby is not that sort of hobby! LOL
P.S. Anyone here ever actually measure the "smoothness" of an action or the consistency and resolution of the human senses involved? I assure you these sorts of things have been measured not rifle specific I am sure. Were is the knowledge hiding? Where are the guru's and sages read to swoop in and provide this information free of charge?
How smooth the action feels means nothing when talking about accuracy or accuracy potential! If anyone talks stiffness of the action especialy based on length they are a moron and yo need to run away from them. If any of that was true all the winners would be using Rolling Blocks, Single Shot Break Actions, Cannon style breeches and the like not bolt actions.
Dump a ton of money into reloading and get to range and shot a few times a week! When I was at my best in college I was going to the range 3-5 days a week. I was getting quality shooting in with rifle, shotgun and pistol each trip to the range.
Get a mentor in the sport you want do that is already at a very high level and model yourself on him!
If someone can not tell you specifically what makes a "custom" action better than a blue printed factory action with some guarantee and professional responsibility as in you get to sue them if they do not deliver on what they are selling or promising. Talk is cheap if it can not be measured and repeatedly reproduced. Tell me exactly what level of concentrically that action is being held to and what I get if the one you sell me is not with in specification!! Things like "It's Better" "They have tighter clearances" "They have less tolerance stacking". All of that might be true but it does not mean it is significant enough to be worth it or that it is better. It is like one hunter telling another hunter that his match grade barrel is better and more accurate than his friends because it was wait for it "air gauged"! For that matter what exactly equals "match grade"??? If precision matters than an industry has standards that are well defined and they hold themselves to best practices. When they do not do that as an industry they are just blowing smoke!
If you want magic take up esoteric things and religion if you want facts about what makes for an accurate rifle that engineering is all well known and fully understood. Have fun getting that info out of the ones with the knowledge this hobby is not that sort of hobby! LOL
P.S. Anyone here ever actually measure the "smoothness" of an action or the consistency and resolution of the human senses involved? I assure you these sorts of things have been measured not rifle specific I am sure. Were is the knowledge hiding? Where are the guru's and sages read to swoop in and provide this information free of charge?
Sleep it off...
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MGYSGT
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Whatever you buy, make sure you can rebarrel it to a caliber with the same bolt head (223 or 308). Like others have said, those trued PT&G's when on sale, are a pretty good buy. I seem to remember seeing some on this site for a good price. Don't get all hung up on a Lefty. I shoot lefthanded and if you shots are from a rest (bipod or leaning on something), it if faster and just as stable to shoot a Righty.
Dusty Stevens
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Did you say (our firearms)? Remember this, what she has is hers and what you have is hers too! There is no OUR!
Coyotefurharvester
Silver $$ Contributor
Rem 700 action bush the bolt. Minimum freebore reamer for the bullet you want to shoot. A stock that is comfortable and fits the position you will shoot most often and the best barrel you can afford, the rifle will likely shoot better than you can until practice over takes experience.
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