Nosler's Accubond LR bullets, NOT the regular Accubonds?

[Ledd Slinger]

I was joking. He's the OP so my statement obviously didn't make any sense.

But forum posts have nothing to do with real world experience. If you only want to listen to those who prove they spend all day on the internet by having thousands of posts on every hunting and shooting forum, you'll get just about every BS opinion out there and maybe 10% of it will be from extensive real world experience. The rest is keyboard jibberish they read on some other web site.

The LR Accubonds will show mixed reviews throughout every review when talking about accuracy, but how many of those fellas have accurate rifles, know how to develop loads properly, or even know how to shoot? So accuracy will ultimately boil down to your personal equipment and ability. Terminal performance?...well again, accuracy is a factor there as well, but in general the LRAB's have bad reviews in this area. Best bet is to get some and shoot them yourself if you really want to know. The only consistent review I read on the LRAB is that they listed BC's are hogwash, and that I truly do believe.

Heck some folks hate Berger bullets for hunting because they had bad experiences, and that's fine, they still work for me. I don't particularly like Nosler Accubond bullets because they didn't work for me, but many folks will fight to the death defending their reliability, and that's fine.
So best bet is to not pay any attention to any of this keyboard jibberish you're reading right now, get up off the computer, go get you a box or two of LRAB's and give 'em a whirl. That right there is the best advice anyone can give you

 

[kochie]

I have a 6.5 x 284 copper and been using 140 Berger hunting bullets i have only shot two deer with them but i can tell you they didn't go far after i shot them very good bullet for hunting i saw them take a elk at 700 yds with that same bullet

 

[Changeling]

I said what I had to say and mean it!

By the way, I do not sit on my computer all day at different web sites. This is the only one I visit!

 

[Trapper243]

I said what I had to say and mean it!

Not sure what you meant. I do not do adds. The short of it, on my end. The bullets were in such poor shape I never got around to load development or checking the actual BC. In fact they were bad enough that I question my use of Nosler bullets at all. Hope they fixed the problem, but I think the damage ( my faith in them) was done. Berger is solid. Nosler has a lot of clean up to do. If you do find any in 6.5, give us a report. I would like to have my faith restored.

 

[JRS]

I said what I had to say and mean it!

Not sure what you meant. I do not do adds. The short of it, on my end. The bullets were in such poor shape I never got around to load development or checking the actual BC. In fact they were bad enough that I question my use of Nosler bullets at all. Hope they fixed the problem, but I think the damage ( my faith in them) was done. Berger is solid. Nosler has a lot of clean up to do. If you do find any in 6.5, give us a report. I would like to have my faith restored.

Sounds like you have a box of blems ;D I have a box of the 6.5 that look as perfect as the 130 grain accubonds and partitions. Of course, they aren't seconds (blems).

 

[wboggs]

There is an article in the latest NRA magazine about the Nosler LRAB. There are some design changes that allow expansion to a lower velocity range of 1300fps. The author did not attempt to measure drop figures to verify the very high for weigh BC. It is 26% higher than the .277 150gr BT.
I continue to advocate for an independent test of the LRAB BCs. and this author did not do that.

 

[Changeling]

There is an article in the latest NRA magazine about the Nosler LRAB. There are some design changes that allow expansion to a lower velocity range of 1300fps. The author did not attempt to measure drop figures to verify the very high for weigh BC. It is 26% higher than the .277 150gr BT.
I continue to advocate for an independent test of the LRAB BCs. and this author did not do that.

Hi wboggs, thanks for the reply. I have given up on a lot of writers/articles written in magazines! 90% of the time they take there findings off the internet or from something they read themselves.
I would like to think there are some out there that actually do some research on there own, but I am beginning to wonder!

I've found the best source for information is a good forum like this one with a lot of knowledgeable people. However you still get a few who try to impress with what they have just read someone else say. However this forum has enough very knowledgeable individuals that seem to speak up when someone is touting a lot of BS.

As for Nosler, I don't know/understand how they can possibly think not listening to the people who made there company help them ! They used to responder to consumer questions and would be sure you were happy with there
answers.
I just wish Bob Nosler was still alive, I have a strong feeling a LOT of it's current management would be making fast exits out the back door.
But, it is there company and they can do what they want, but I am a large consumer of there products and I can buy from those I trust.

 

[XTR]

Brian Litz reviewed them (LRAB) on Snipers Hide. To paraphrase his comments, good design, but a long bullet and the manufacturer doesn't give suggested twist rates, which for many of these may be faster than what is commonly spec'd in OEM barrels. I seem to recall that his comments on one of the 284s was that it probably needed a 1:8.

I believe this is where he posted the teaser from his new book talking about bullets not performing up to their full potential BC if they aren't fully stabilized.

here

did you miss my post above with the link to the results of the tests Brian Litz performed? I think that most would agree that Brian is one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry today when it comes to bullets and ballistics.

 

[wboggs]

I did miss it and will go there and try to find it. Bryan Litz and Berger are always upfront about the characteristics of their bullets. To say I am disappointed in Nosler's approach is an understatement. That comes from someone that has used their products for 60 years.
Thanks for the heads up.
Bill

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I've found the best source for information is a good forum like this one with a lot of knowledgeable people. However you still get a few who try to impress with what they have just read someone else say. However this forum has enough very knowledgeable individuals that seem to speak up when someone is touting a lot of BS.

And how exactly are you attempting to form your own opinion about Nosler LRAB's??? It appears you are going off of "what they have just read someone else say". Because you are certainly not out there shooting them to see for yourself. The only BS around here is Nosler's claim of BC's. If you are so inexperienced that you would even begin to believe they are that much higher than Berger VLDs, or could even possibly be used in the twist rates they are claiming, then you have a lot more reading and shooting to do sonny...

 

[Changeling]

Thanks for calling me sonny that kind of makes my day.

My plan was to ask the forum members there opinions about the bullets before I made any drastic discoveries/comments like you.

If every thing seemed OK I would buy some and give them a go in my own rifle rather than just through money into the wind with absolutely no idea as to there claimed properties and abilities.
That is what this and other forums are all about, every one helping one another!

Doe's this answer your question?

 

[fourpower]

I have tried the new nosler ablr bullets in my custom .264 rifle. as always they just shot fair out to 500 yds after that forget! I will stay with my 140 bergers and shoot them out to 1400 yds! noslers cant hang with bergers past 600 yds.

 

[stacy]

FOURPOWER DO U HAVE ANY LEFT FOR THE 6.5 I WOULD LIKE TO BUY A COUPLE TO TRY IN MY CUSTOM 6.5 CREEDMOOR