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New 2013 Nosler Accubond LONG RANGE Bullets

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They looked long. He ran them out of his 300 short mag. Don't remember the load, but groups were sub .75 moa at 100 or better. He loaded 9 rounds. Three, 3 shot groups. Not any better or worse than the Berger bullets he normally uses. Not sure what to think until I see how they fly at distance. Like all, I really want to see if the BC claims are true. I don't know where he got them but he had backorders in everywhere for stuff and those were on a list "somewhere". It was an old back order and One box came, nothing else. He has a back order in for me too. 190s to try out of my 30-06, and some 150s for the .270. A .625 BC bullet out of the old .270 win. turns it into a whole new animal. I think the whole shortage and hording thing has production of these new bullets all screwed up.
 
raythemanroe said:
If Berger used a ballistic tip on there vld or hybrid it would increase their bc...

Not necessarily. The open tip design of Berger, Sierra MKs, etc, creates turbulence in the air around the bullet which leaves a low pressure pocket that creates less drag on the body and allows the bullet to remain stable for loner distances for better accuracy at long range. A ballistic tip bullet actually has more air drag on the bullet body because the air flows smoothly from tip to base.

Open tip style bullets also allow for longer VLD designs that provide higher BCs. Without the ploymer tip, the jacket can be made longer and rolled to a fine point. The ballistic tip was designed to provide more rapid expansion in bullets upon impact. Not so much for superior BCs.

PS: An "open tip" design target bullet is not the same as a "hollow point" bullet. the open tip has a much smaller cavity.
 
BigDMT,

Okay, I have heard that theory before and I see people using the whidden system to much in 1000 yd matches to believe it still holds water!!
As you can imagine, the larger the meplat is to start with, the more pointing the bullet will help. Consider also that the meplat of a .224 bullet is a greater portion of the frontal area than a .338 bullet. For this reason, the gain seen by the smaller diameter bullets is more. Some shooters have seen their .223s shoot 2.5 MOA flatter at 1000 yards just by pointing the bullet. If you’re an AR-15 service rifle shooter, the potential gain is very large. Lead tipped hunting bullets also show significant gains such as this.
As you can understand, we also need the BC to be consistent from one bullet to the next, within the same box, so they will drop the same amount as they go down range.

The most inconsistent surface on a bullet is the tip (called the meplat). Again, the 1000 yard benchrest shooters have developed a solution. It has become popular to trim the meplats in recent years so that each one has exactly the same shape at the meplat. Undoubtedly this has made the bullets more consistent and therefore the groups have gotten smaller.
Ballistic tips have two Benefits, first one being controlled expansion and the second one being consistency to the meplat and bullet flight..
 
Expensive perhaps, but if you are already shooting the standard accubonds in your hunting/plinker rifle. Then it is roughly the same money or a bit cheaper because Nosler bullets usually come in boxes of 50, these are per 100. Im looking forward to trying them, if mere mortals ever get there hands on some.
 
Left to right: 210 ALR, 215 berger hybrid, 210 berger vld

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I loaded some of the .277 for my 270 win this evening. Trying H4831 first. If all goes well I will try them within a day or so.
 
I want to try them, but most of my hunting is done with a 6.5mm Rem Mag. Then just built a big 338 for long range elk and dangerous game. Can't believe they debuted the Accubond LR with only one weight in 6.5mm and NO 338 bullets??? I think they are definitely missing a huge part of the market there because most 6.5mm hunters like 140gr bullets, and you know the 338 crowd goes crazy to try any high BC bullet.
 
At the Shot Show they said they would be available in March 2013. In March 2013 they said they would be available in July 2013, Now they say the fall of 2013. I'll believe it when I see them.

I call the Nosler Accubond the working man's Swift Scirocco, not quite as good but less expensive. At least the Accubonds will shoot in almost any gun.

With extensive testing, I would not recommend Berger Bullets for Hunting. some folks love them, some folks cuss them. I find they either blow up and don't exit or the pencil through with no expansion. Where I live if a deer runs 20-30 yards without a blood trail the chances of finding them drops exponentially. I prefer a controlled expansion bullet with both an entrance and exit would. A bullet that if you have to make a Texas heart shot the bullet will reach the heart.

Nat Lambeth
 
Finally got around to trying these. I have two boxes of the 150s. I tried a starting load with H4831, but it shot better with IMR 4831 . 55 grains IMR4831, produced velocities at 3080 and several 3 shot groups of just under .5 moa, which is close to what the gun normally shoots with the 130 accubonds at 3200 fps. No pressure signs with this load but I bet I am getting close. Would play with the seating depth some, but I am out of room in the magazine. Need to load some more and back up to see how it does at distance. Not sure I trust the BC claims, but I guess testing at distance will tell.
 
Just picked up 500 of the 7mm 168 gr LR Accubonds. The are long and sleek. Can't wait for the Ultramag to get finished! While I am taking a 6.5x284 with the 140 VLD for a sheep hunt to Alaska on Tuesday, I commend Nosler for making the Accubond better.
Scott
 
effendude said:
Just picked up 500 of the 7mm 168 gr LR Accubonds. The are long and sleek. Can't wait for the Ultramag to get finished! While I am taking a 6.5x284 with the 140 VLD for a sheep hunt to Alaska on Tuesday, I commend Nosler for making the Accubond better.
Scott
Do you think you could post up a pic of one compared to another 7mm bullet?
 
barnesuser28 said:
effendude said:
Just picked up 500 of the 7mm 168 gr LR Accubonds. The are long and sleek. Can't wait for the Ultramag to get finished! While I am taking a 6.5x284 with the 140 VLD for a sheep hunt to Alaska on Tuesday, I commend Nosler for making the Accubond better.
Scott
Do you think you could post up a pic of one compared to another 7mm bullet?

7mm 160 AB; 168 VLD; 168 ABLR; 180 VLD
 

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I shot the 7mm 168s out of my 7RSAUM and found that they ran a good bit slower than both the Berger 168s and 180s with Retumbo. Also, the best group I had at 100 yards was .7". Berger 180s average 3/8 moa out of that gun and the Berger 168s shoot pretty well too.
 

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