New 2013 Nosler Accubond LONG RANGE Bullets

[onelastshot]

After getting some great advise from a couple of gentlemen that know far more about reloading and LR shooting than I ever will, I decided to build a LR hunting rifle, a 6.5 that will handle the 129-143 bullets. I decided on the 6.5 x 47AI. Going to use a Stiller Predator action(have heard their short action is excellent) and have McGowen barrel it with a 26" stainless Douglas #2 contour with a 1:8.5 twist. General consensus is the 8.5 twist will handle the 129 - 143 very well. Will have dies custom made with the reamer.

I realize that the standard 6.5 - 47 case is more than sufficient but, I just want to see what loads and velocity I can obtain with a 40 degree shoulder. The build should be ready about the time Norma releases its new line. I just have to decide if I'm going to go with a synthetic stock or build one for it. The choice of scope will be decided later. If anyone has experience with the 6.5 x 47 AI, I'd love to hear from them.

 

[30Hart]

Here's the lengths and twist rates recommended.

 

[wapiti25]

Nosler has not in the past had good QC on their bullets. I have seen a dia. variation of .0003-.0005 from old to new. The new bullets were smaller and would not shoot well. When I called about this they said "nothing wrong with our bullets". I have quit buying noslers. Bergers work better for me.

 

[Mr. Ten-X]

LOL, I have seen variation on all of them, including Berger. It's called "tooling wear" and "acceptable tolerance" range. The QC on Nosler hunting bullets has been just fine for any hunting that a person with tons of hunting history would ever need. At least a person can rely on them to give consistent, uniform expansion and they do not tend to hand grenade when they hit anything close or hard. The idea is to kill them humanely and not have to shag a wounded animal through the most God awful terrain imaginable. All other considerations are distant in comparison once you wound a nice critter.

 

[BigDMT]

Nosler has not in the past had good QC on their bullets. I have seen a dia. variation of .0003-.0005 from old to new. The new bullets were smaller and would not shoot well. When I called about this they said "nothing wrong with our bullets". I have quit buying noslers. Bergers work better for me.

I love bergers for hunting as much as any other bullet. Very consistent in every aspect.

I have also experienced large variations in nosler bullets. I've even seen weights of bullets be off by over a full grain in the partitions. The only gun I shoot nosler in is my 358 norma mag. I use the 225 gr partitions with 72gr of Hogdon BLC-2 at 3030 fps. But even with the large variations from bullet to bullet, they still shoot very accurately. Last time I shot my 358 norma at 300 yards, it posted a 1.5" group with 5 shots having zero barrel cooling time between shots.

So I gotta say, inconsistent or not, Nosler still makes bullets that are very accurate.

 

[GSPV]

Will have dies custom made with the reamer.

I understand how you can cut a seater die with your reamer. I don't see how you can get a sizing die from it.

 

[BigDMT]

Will have dies custom made with the reamer.

I understand how you can cut a seater die with your reamer. I don't see how you can get a sizing die from it.

You can't make a sizing die from a chamber reamer. To make a sizing die, you have to buy a whole other reamer called a sizing die reamer.

 

[Mr. Ten-X]

The roughing reamers that I have ordered from PT&G were spec'd for a specific (large) lot of brass and it would be used to machine a Newlon blank for sizing. It was not used as a roughing reamer for chambering. Dave Kiff can help you on sizing the rougher for that purpose. The chambering reamer can be used to machine a Wilson hand die blank for bullet seating.

 

[acloco]

Ditto, ditto, and DITTO!

IMHO, why not a 145 gr 6.5/264 bullet? Even a 150? They would never be able to produce enough bullets if either of these weights were offered in the 6.5/264 caliber.

Now that I have had a chance to digest this, my only wish is that Nosler would have tooled for the 140gr in 6.5mm instead of the 129gr weight. Every other caliber appears to be at the upper limit of weight to get max BC except the 6.5mm. It might be as the result of no magnum or short-mag cartridges available in 6.5mm and the are reliant mostly upon the 6.5/284, 6.5/06 and 6.5 Swede crowd as customers. They went straight to 150gr for the .277" booolit, I assume because of the 270WSM.

Won't whine too loud however because it seems like every time the booolit manufacturers have a new product intro, the red-headed step child 6.5mm must wait for them to get running strong with the calibers that are the truly the bulk of the market, which the 6.5mm will never be. At least we know the 6.5mm will be coming, though likely last.

 

[Mr. Ten-X]

Ditto, ditto, and DITTO!

IMHO, why not a 145 gr 6.5/264 bullet? Even a 150? They would never be able to produce enough bullets if either of these weights were offered in the 6.5/264 caliber.

139-142 gr booolits have been all the rage for long-range target shooting for quite some time and folks have been using them with non-magnums in 9" twist barrels. A low-drag booolit in that weight range, with true hunting construction, would have to be one penetrating mutha. The sectional density would be very high indeed.

 

[MontanaBob]

The reason for the 129 6.5mm is Nosler took into consideration that specs for 260 Remington are a 1:9 twist, so they designed the bullet that would stabilize with that twist. According to Nosler, heavier 6.5mm bullets are in the works for the guys shooting 1:8.

 

[long40shot]

Has anyone found these in stock yet? Midway has them marked as showing up 7/31. Just wondering.

Thanks,
Matt

 

[wyoming .260]

Not trying to sound negative or anything, but the pictures i have seen of the 129 gr. 6.5 seem to show a pretty long bearing surface and shorter nose and overall length then a 130 gr. berger hunting vld, if shorter and blunter, then how can the bc be higher? Magic? Dang I wish swamper could make his JLKs in bigger quantities

 

[BigDMT]

Not trying to sound negative or anything, but the pictures i have seen of the 129 gr. 6.5 seem to show a pretty long bearing surface and shorter nose and overall length then a 130 gr. berger hunting vld, if shorter and blunter, then how can the bc be higher? Magic? Dang I wish swamper could make his JLKs in bigger quantities

That's exactly what I've been wondering. I think Nosler may be blowing a bunch of smoke up our rear ends about the BCs. Only way to tell is to chronograph the bullet at long range I suppose.

 

[Raythemanroe]

If Berger used a ballistic tip on there vld or hybrid it would increase there bc, regardless I would compare the Noslers to the Amax but still would be interested in these bullets..

 

[Raythemanroe]

Let me guess, they built a bullet similar to the Berger Hybrid and stuffed a plastic tip on it a long with being bonded..Okay, still sounds good

 

[Trapper243]

A friend of mine managed to get a box of 210grn 30 cal. Have not seen any others.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Trapper243,


Do they look good?

 

[long40shot]

Good deal Trapper. I am hoping for some of the 190s to try in my 300wm.

 

[Hydenseek]

Does anybody have these in stock