Nightforce Benchrest dim and disappointed

[LarryDScott]

Matt, you must have been out in the heat to long.LDS

 

[6MMsteve]

I have a NF 1242 & S3 1050 and the NF is mucho a bunch and some more clear than the S3 but I like them both

 

[dkhunt14]

Matt, you must have been out in the heat to long.LDS

I have seen more then one S111 FAIL. I don't get on here and bash them. Yes they fixed them, but that is not the point. Also the points brought up in the Jewell thread were all valid points by many people. Matt

 

[LarryDScott]

Matt, I have not BASHED any brand. Conversation for me is over. LDS

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I've actually never looked through a Sightron. Always heard good things about them and almost bought one a couple different times but went a different route.

I have however looked through the 12-42 NF BR while shooting 1K yards and I was impressed to say the least. Very sharp and clear picture with plenty of brightness. I thought it was exceptionally bright considering the 42X magnification on only a 56mm objective.

Your scope may have some issues too. Don't know. Maybe try to find another one to compare it to and if there is a big difference, perhaps a warranty claim is in order.

 

[Joe Salt]

Does anyone think that maybe the day you were looking though the scope the conditions weren't quite right for 42 power? I find myself always looking for the brightest setting more than just looking for the highest power and then saying the scope isn't what I want. Try it you may feel different!

Joe Salt

 

[dedeadeye]

My take on this thread is this. I think in all depends on a person OWN sight picture. At age 76 for example things are so much different than when I was 46. For MY shooting eye the Nightforce comps have no equal. Next are the Leupold VX 7, NF Benchrest, Sightron 8-32x56 and finally the March 10-60x 52T. Actually on a given day the Sightron clearly showed the petals of a pine cone at 1300 yards measured yards. I have owned multiples of all them but I have also sold all of them except the NF Benchrest and March. My point is I will sacrifice a bit of optical quality for ROCK SOLID adjustments. That is truly what it is all about in long range accuracy.
Roger

 

[4xforfun]

Sightron is the more scope for the money invested than
any other brand. LDS

So...if you could get a K-Mart special for a buck, would that scope then be the best bang for the buck? Would you then use it on the 1000 yard line at the IBS Nationals or the World Open?

Me neither. Sometimes it's not about the money.

Tod

 

[Rogmay]

I would say that's not a fair assessment, since I've never seen a K-mart scope for $1! I think the thought process is pound for pound, just like a fighter they might not beat up a heavy weight, but for there price range they're a decent scope! Don't get me wrong, I'd like to have the best scope I can buy, but we all can't afford it! But i'd sure give them all I have!

 

[dedeadeye]

I have been thinking about the riflescope issue for quite some time. We all expend a great deal of time and money on this accuracy game. Thought of the assembly of a scope checker, but yet another expense.
What I really wish to see is an enterprising individual or team with mechanical/ technical ability begin a modification to an existing riflescope. Perhaps some one that was employed by a major manufacturer and understands the internals of a modern rifle scope and/or has the ability to machine the parts necessary to make those windage and elevation adjustments bullet proof. I don't believe (probably incorrectly) that the disassembly of a rifle scope is rocket science. Hopefully that individual is in the immediate background and contemplating these same issue, is tired of all the bull and will begin what I feel is a "can't miss business."
Roger Gower

 

[Pappy42]

I have been thinking about the riflescope issue for quite some time. We all expend a great deal of time and money on this accuracy game. Thought of the assembly of a scope checker, another expense.
What I really wish to see is an enterprising individual or team with mechanical/ technical ability begin a modification to an existing riflescope. Perhaps some one that was employed by a major manufacture and understands the internals of a modern rifle scope and/or has the ability to machine the parts necessary to make those windage and elevation adjustments bullet proof. I don't believe (probably incorrectly) that the disassembly of a rifle scope is rocket science. Hopefully that individual is in the immediate background and contemplating these same issue, is tired of all the bull and will begin what I feel is a "can't miss business."
Roger Gower

Roger, what you propose is likely to happen; however I would prefer to get what I pay for in the original purchase price of the product that I buy.

 

[dedeadeye]

Pappy, yes sir I certainly do agree with you.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I have been thinking about the riflescope issue for quite some time. We all expend a great deal of time and money on this accuracy game. Thought of the assembly of a scope checker, another expense.
What I really wish to see is an enterprising individual or team with mechanical/ technical ability begin a modification to an existing riflescope. Perhaps some one that was employed by a major manufacture and understands the internals of a modern rifle scope and/or has the ability to machine the parts necessary to make those windage and elevation adjustments bullet proof. I don't believe (probably incorrectly) that the disassembly of a rifle scope is rocket science. Hopefully that individual is in the immediate background and contemplating these same issue, is tired of all the bull and will begin what I feel is a "can't miss business."
Roger Gower

I told tom to send me a comp scope and Ill tear into it. Judging by the scope checker thread I think there would be a very small market. Most people are in denial and "never had an issue". Well, we never had an issue either until we figured it out. I know I spent a year chasing trying to shave off 1-2" at 1k that I knew could be done. It was not until I sold the scope to a friend who complained of accuracy issues also that the light bulb went off. I got that scope back and guess what? It moved .2 moa. The scope cost me multiple barrels, stocks, action work, tons of time and energy, components, exc. I was dense, that rifle was unreal when it wore its March. I swapped the scope out because the new one had such good glass in it. It never shot well again. Optical quality means nothing if the scope is not solid.

 

[dedeadeye]

"The scope cost me multiple barrels, stocks, action work, TONS OF TIME and energy, components, etc." Alex really powerful sentence. The lost time can never be replaced. Most of us old guys know TIME IS WORTH MORE THAN MONEY. I was hoping my post would catch your attention, as you are surely the one who can find the answers. Put me down for the second prototype, right after Tom. Ha. Your friend, Roger

 

[group therapy]

just my 2 cents ( and probably only worth one) but when i bought my 8x32 siii it was compared to the nf 42x and the siii 50x. the 32x was equal to or better in 3 different reviews. one said the nf was better overall but barely. the other 2 called the 32x better than either of the other two scopes. i owned a 42x nf and the 32x siii and sold the nf. supposedly the 32x is clearer than the 50x siii. like i said, just my 2 cents.

 

[swd]

I told tom to send me a comp scope and Ill tear into it. Judging by the scope checker thread I think there would be a very small market. Most people are in denial and "never had an issue". Well, we never had an issue either until we figured it out. I know I spent a year chasing trying to shave off 1-2" at 1k that I knew could be done. It was not until I sold the scope to a friend who complained of accuracy issues also that the light bulb went off. I got that scope back and guess what? It moved .2 moa. The scope cost me multiple barrels, stocks, action work, tons of time and energy, components, exc. I was dense, that rifle was unreal when it wore its March. I swapped the scope out because the new one had such good glass in it. It never shot well again. Optical quality means nothing if the scope is not solid.

I think if it's reasonable there are at least a few of us that would get it done just for peace of mind. To have a rock solid Comp with the glass quality would be win win.

 

[dkhunt14]

just my 2 cents ( and probably only worth one) but when i bought my 8x32 siii it was compared to the nf 42x and the siii 50x. the 32x was equal to or better in 3 different reviews. one said the nf was better overall but barely. the other 2 called the 32x better than either of the other two scopes. i owned a 42x nf and the 32x siii and sold the nf. supposedly the 32x is clearer than the 50x siii. like i said, just my 2 cents.

Reviews are nothing more then somebody's opinion. Everybody sees things differently, their eyes are different. I have also seen where some scopes of the same model are just better then others. I would rather have reliability and slightly less picture quality. You can't win without reliability. Matt

 

[swd]

I have also seen where some scopes of the same model are just better then others.

This^^^
Just look through any lower or mid range Leupold or Vortex. The glass is all over the place from complete crap to pretty damn good. If you could go through 50 scopes of the same model you could probably pick out a real nice one.

 

[dmoran]

just my 2 cents ( and probably only worth one) but when i bought my 8x32 siii it was compared to the nf 42x and the siii 50x. the 32x was equal to or better in 3 different reviews. one said the nf was better overall but barely. the other 2 called the 32x better than either of the other two scopes. i owned a 42x nf and the 32x siii and sold the nf. supposedly the 32x is clearer than the 50x siii. like i said, just my 2 cents.

I have both the SIII 8-32 and NF 12-42 BR. Comparing both at equal power, my eyes give the edge to the NF on clarity, and even more so on eye relief.

 

[Kiwi Greg]

FWIW, I have two NF comp 42 x 44s one is very slightly better than the other.

Both are noticeably optically better than the equivalent Leupold & March BR scopes that my BR friends have, YMMV