NEW Bat action coming out today

[ebb]

Alex what you need is a carbon fiber action.

 

[Tokay444]

When a round is chambered and is concentric to the bore. Nothing more matters. I don’t see how this is anything different than a solid steel action, other than weight. Once the trigger is tapped, it’s all bullet, Mother Nature, owner and barrel. The drop port has no advantage other than placing a solo cup under to catch brass. If ignition is the benefit than that should be the selling point. I just don’t see how it is going to increase my overall groups and aggs. I’m not bashing, have the utmost respect for all, just don’t understand the benefits. Maybe more explanation as to the advantage is needed.

Anything in, on, or otherwise touching the system has an affect, and the materials they're made from influence that affect. I violin made out of spruce and maple sounds distinctly different than one made out of carbon fibre. An identical violin made out of spruce and maple with courser grain structure will sound distinctly different than the first. Liken your rifle to a musical instrument and it's easier to imagine how everything makes a difference.

 

[OmegaRed]

Anything in, on, or otherwise touching the system has an affect, and the materials they're made from influence that affect. I violin made out of spruce and maple sounds distinctly different than one made out of carbon fibre. An identical violin made out of spruce and maple with courser grain structure will sound distinctly different than the first. Linen your rifle to a musical instrument and it's easier to imagine how everything makes a difference.

That's why I tune with tuning forks. I can get a finished competition load in 8-9 rounds.

 

[jghoghunter]

That's why I tune with tuning forks. I can get a finished competition load in 8-9 rounds.

Color me intrigued!! Let's hear how this is done.

 

[jackieschmidt]

I think the reason Panda’s shoot well, right out of the Box, is that they followed a very effective screw in shroud concept with the right amount of firing pin drop and spring pressure.

That combined with fine workmanship.

I have never seen aPanda that had to be “sent somewhere” to get it right.

Around 20+ years ago, there was a rather well known Gunsmith who was charging shooters to “accurize” their Kebly Panda‘s. He was told by George, publicly, to cease and desist.

 

[OmegaRed]

Color me intrigued!! Let's hear how this is done.

Quite simple really.

 

[sdean]

Every time the harmonics go through another material they loose energy. Also, we all know that the trigger lifts the rear of the bolt. Once its released and pressure builds, the bolt body slams against the action body. My guess is the aluminum actions ad less harmoni

I say trade it, this bitch is going to make everything before it obsolete! Lol

Tom

If that's true how did a Bat action rifle ever beat a Panda one?

 

[jghoghunter]

Quite simple really.

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Please don't try and make an ass out of me. I was actually intrigued about your process and how it worked. Your chart means absolutely nothing to me, reading it the best I can, doesn't give me any answers or even a place to start. If you like I can give you the plans and the run down for using coal slurry from a coal fired power house. Then how that coal slurry is used in making drywall.
I was just asking a question I was truly interested in.

 

[OmegaRed]

Please don't try and make an ass out of me. I was actually intrigued about your process and how it worked. Your chart means absolutely nothing to me, reading it the best I can, doesn't give me any answers or even a place to start. If you like I can give you the plans and the run down for using coal slurry from a coal fired power house. Then how that coal slurry is used in making drywall.
I was just asking a question I was truly interested in.

I'm being facetious. Seems to fit in with the majority of the thread.

 

[Tokay444]

He doesn't tune his rifle with tuning forks.

 

[jghoghunter]

I'm being facetious. Seems to fit in with the majority of the thread.

He doesn't tune his rifle with tuning forks.

Sorry, but just as the rest of us, we're always looking for better ways to do stuff. I thought you had something I'd never heard of so I thought I better ask. I got broad shoulders though and this certainly in the first time that I screwed up and I'm pretty sure it's not going to be the last. Lol

 

[JEFFPPC]

Sorry, but just as the rest of us, we're always looking for better ways to do stuff. I thought you had something I'd never heard of so I thought I better ask. I got broad shoulders though and this certainly in the first time that I screwed up and I'm pretty sure it's not going to be the last. Lol

And there are those fools who think getting a latest greatest action will make them a wiiner.

 

[ebb]

If the action they have is not working and holding them back maybe it will???

 

[WIB3]

It’s really tough to reinvent the wheel. The BAT and Panda lineup is very hard to beat. What is next a $5000 titanium. Again I am not putting down innovation, but explain, test and prove. I just truly believe that there are so many variables in the equation that not just one can be a game changer. Again, just one mans opinion.

 

[Tokay444]

You don’t want titanium in a competition action. Hunters buy it to keep weight down, but it’s a trade off.

 

[WIB3]

If we are talking about harmonics, doesn’t the bedding material and also the stock infill play into the equation.

 

[Tokay444]

Definitely.

 

[WIB3]

Ultimately the vibrations are transferred to many different materials. I believe that load development, quality gunsmiths, exceptional buttets and the grace of Mother Nature are far more revenant.

 

[Tokay444]

More relevant than what?

 

[WIB3]

Luck of having a good relay! You can’t buy success.