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Moving On From Savage Bashing...What's So Great About Remington?

Most of the Savage Bashers,Got Smoked by a Savage,w/ the Bolt Lift kits,New Jard Savage Triggers in the Ounces,They are a Great Choice for the Budget Restricted shooters, One Will Always LOVE the Look on a Non savage Shooters face,when they get Waxed
 
Most of the Savage Bashers,Got Smoked by a Savage,w/ the Bolt Lift kits,New Jard Savage Triggers in the Ounces,They are a Great Choice for the Budget Restricted shooters, One Will Always LOVE the Look on a Non savage Shooters face,when they get Waxed
Yes, Yes, 100% Yes
My son and used to shoot USPSA and the only extra 9mm pistol I had was a P89 so he used and was made fun of for shooting an ugly old Ruger... Until he started kicking their asses..
Thankfully opinions are like onions and rearends, they all stink
 
Most of the Savage Bashers,Got Smoked by a Savage,w/ the Bolt Lift kits,New Jard Savage Triggers in the Ounces,They are a Great Choice for the Budget Restricted shooters, One Will Always LOVE the Look on a Non savage Shooters face,when they get Waxed
Yep!
 
All I know is I have attended lots of matches in my life . The dominate factory brand winner the last 25 years is Savage. Sloppy action, crude overall, they work. And shame , double shame on Remington for never clambering the 700 Varmint in 6 BR, their cartridge. Prime example when a big corporation loses touch with their market. I am not a Savage fan at all but I respect what they have done and offered to shooters. Amazing, Remington and General Motors have followed a similar path to mediocracy. Savage and Chrysler still there and doing ok.
 
All I know is I have attended lots of matches in my life . The dominate factory brand winner the last 25 years is Savage. Sloppy action, crude overall, they work. And shame , double shame on Remington for never clambering the 700 Varmint in 6 BR, their cartridge. Prime example when a big corporation loses touch with their market. I am not a Savage fan at all but I respect what they have done and offered to shooters. Amazing, Remington and General Motors have followed a similar path to mediocracy. Savage and Chrysler still there and doing ok.
You mean Fiat.
 
In the hands of my Friend John Southwick, my Savage 6mmBR at one time held the local range record for our 600-yard steel silhouette match, shot prone. John shot three dozen targets without a miss, including mini chickens that had a hit zone about 3” in diameter.

Punch line: Of course the only thing left original in that Savage was the action. I replaced stock, barrel, and trigger (and changed from .260 Rem to 6mmBR). But heck, if it didn’t shoot so well I never would have started 6mmBR.com and this Forum!

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Never owned a Savage center fire rifle. But at the range, those who shoot a Savage, always seem to get good groups, right out of the box. I am a died in the wool Remington 700 guy. The only other center fire rifle I own is a Stolle/Panda in 6mm PPC which is based on the 700 action. Remington actions are not the smoothest out there, but once trued, it makes no difference, as far as I can tell, after the bolt is locked.
 
What makes the remington fun is that is simple to work on with no real fancy parts and most of the RR pre-fix later ones are made on a cnc machine and dont require many mods to make them very accurate fun guns to own. Basically most aftermarket actions costing 2 times what a remington costs and if you sell off what your dont need? The receiver and trigger screws and bdl floor plate is all you need and then just a new barrel with a decent stock and most likely will shoot better than we are in many cases. The fact that parts are plentiful makes them attractive to many many shooters. I wouldnt hesitate on building off of one.
 
The Savage floating bolt head gets 100% lug contact with the receiver. you would be surprised that a lot of other rifles get 20-40% lug contact. a worked remington will do fine but so will a savage. as far as the trigger issue with remingtons for a hunting rifle I like the Ruger and Winchester safeties that block the trigger and the firing pin copied from the Mauser
 
In all seriousness, I really would like to know the pros and cons of the Remington 700 design and performance. For instance, I think I heard their lock time is quite fast, but am not sure on that. What sets the Remington 700 apart from other designs?

This is NOT a question of the Remington being popular, having lots of aftermarket support, or it being the choice of military or police. These things can be due to many factors, which are outside the scope of my question. I am just looking at the Remington from a design and performance perspective. What might you say if you were performing a non-partisan evaluation of the Remington 700 action?

Phil

3 rings of steel....
 
I know a fella that insists you should cut your Remington's up in a bandsaw. He's a diehard Savage man. I'm very fond of Savage. I have a Lawton, a Bighorn Origin, and a ARC Nucleus. I never will own another Remington. This fella is my one of my closest friends. He makes me laugh when he tells guys that, especially when he's kicking their butts in a Competition.
 
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