Moving On From Savage Bashing...What's So Great About Remington?

[aj300mag]

I think Savage uses the floating bolt head on all actions. ??? If so, they use it on a 375 H&H, 375 Ruger, 338 Lapua Mag, and 338 WinMag. Those are pretty hard hitting. But, am ASSUMING the floating bolt head is used on those calibers. If NOT used, that would call into question the strength of the design.

Phil

Phil, bigger cartridges do not have more pressure, they just shoot bigger bullets and hold more powder.

It's like a car tire and a tractor tire. A car tire usually hold 45 psi. while a tractor tire is about 20 to 30 PSI. Size does not determine pressure.

Erik they may operate at the same pressure the larger cartridges will have a higher bolt thrust due to the larger surface area for the pressure to act on.

Possibly, but the brass also has more surface area to grip the chamber walls.

The point is, that the big mags and the smaller cartridges are not that much different on the stress that they apply to an action.

There's a world of difference between the bolt thrust of a .223 Remington and an Ultramag/Short Mag case. Tis the actual force in pounds that hammer the bolt lugs. Brass gripping the chamber is irrelevant, the force is the pressure against the cartridge head internal surface area...

Bolt set back...

 

[savagedasher]

Plus 1

 

[Erik Cortina]

aj300mag, bolt thrust is out of my pay grade. :'(

 

[DOGCAPPER]

How can anyone like a rifle trigger that shifts 6-10 ounces of metal when fired? Or haven't you looked in there?

 

[Raythemanroe]

Compatibility and having a round action Plus the military following is Remington's golden goose.. It doesn't hurt they was used first in real benchrest shooting

 

[savagedasher]

What made Remington great .Without them Jewell triggers would of never existed. 5 million was made with un safe triggers. Remington never made a recall Because it would of broke them.
Larry

 

[Raythemanroe]

We all know the Rem 700 action is NOT the most smooth action. A Win 70 and Ruger 77 and Mauser are WAY smoother.

I can't speak for any other m77 Rugers but I bought a brand new one with stainless target gray finish
and it has more drag than a rusted tail pipe on a old ford pickup
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The follower drags on the bolt, remove some material from the follower and polish..I have seen this on Remington's to but a lot of Rugers

 

[fdshuster]

Larry: How many of those "unsafe" Remington triggers were tampered with by someone who had no idea what they were doing? Just askin.

 

[mytwo60]

I have 2 Reminton 700 and they both look really nice sitting in my safe collecting dust.

 

[LHSmith]

Remington had numerous recalls on the trigger mechanisms made ~ pre 87. I remember the recall notices in the various gun rags at the time.
Do a search before parroting the lies from a hit piece by PMSNBC.

 

[mr45man]

Larry: How many of those "unsafe" Remington triggers were tampered with by someone who had no idea what they were doing? Just asking.

I was guilty of that about 40 years ago. You cant "hone" trigger parts on the Kitchen table, had to replace the sear.
As for the unsafe triggers, that's propaganda, just think about it.
If you do not point a loaded gun at some one or your self no one gets hurt
John H.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Look at what has happened to this topic. It has degenerated to the first topic of "Those who don't like Savages".. This topic should be blended into the other one... If it is "What's so good about a Remington" WHY continue to compare it to a Savage>>>Compare it to a B.A.T. or Panda or Stiller etc... That is really where Remington stacks up against, once they have been fully worked over..

Ben, most custom actions are Remington clones, so there is really nothing to compare.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Larry: How many of those "unsafe" Remington triggers were tampered with by someone who had no idea what they were doing? Just asking.

I was guilty of that about 40 years ago. You cant "hone" trigger parts on the Kitchen table, had to replace the sear.
As for the unsafe triggers, that's propaganda, just think about it.
If you do not point a loaded gun at some one or your self no one gets hurt
John H.

True, much easier when you can unload with the safety on but ya what are you doing pointing the gun at some one!

 

[dwt]

LOL , pour it on boys . Someone on here once said , in a snarky comment to them , '' this is not the Hide '' , you want to bet ?

 

[savagedasher]

Larry: How many of those "unsafe" Remington triggers were tampered with by someone who had no idea what they were doing? Just askin.

None when I found they were un safe I replaced them. What is the bad part the man who design the trigger in 1946 told then it had a flaw. They still went on. Larry

 

[savagedasher]

Larry: How many of those "unsafe" Remington triggers were tampered with by someone who had no idea what they were doing? Just asking.

I was guilty of that about 40 years ago. You cant "hone" trigger parts on the Kitchen table, had to replace the sear.
As for the unsafe triggers, that's propaganda, just think about it.
If you do not point a loaded gun at some one or your self no one gets hurt
John H.

True, much easier when you can unload with the safety on but ya what are you doing pointing the gun at some one!

They went off when you took the safety off. Pull it upon goggle. Larry

 

[Rem6br]

Ray,
Thanks for the tip on my new ruger m77

 

[tuttlefarm]

One of the things that I find quirky about most bolt actions including the Remington 700 is that for most right handed right eye people it is poorly designed. It seems to me that if you're right handed the ejection/reloading port should be on the left side. It would make it a lot easier to insert a round in the chamber with minimal movement.

I think of the right bolt right port design as the qwerty design of the rifle world. Everyone keeps doing the same thing simply because that's the way it was done before. That includes me.

So, you want all the gases going in your eyes if there is a case failure?

How would you reload a right bolt left port in the field with no place to rest the rifle?

Ejecting brass into your face is probably not a good idea either.

Eric, think about what you just said then tell me what the difference in a duel port action, is it just the bolt handle is in a different place.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Ray,
Thanks for the tip on my new ruger m77

I hope it helps, but if you rack your bolt and watch the follower you will see what material needs removing..

 

[mr45man]

"They went off when you took the safety off. Pull it upon goggle.
Larry"
I suppose that could happen, but having had many Remington's,
it never happened to me.
As for goggle, they are repeating stories that some one "said" the gun went off as the safety was switched to fire.

I just cant believe Remington would use a defective trigger for decades.
John H.