Long Dasher (6-6.5x47 Lapua AI) Questions

[dkhunt14]

Yeah, Neil does a great job and his dies are reasonably priced. Are you familiar with Alan Warner's resizing dies? http://www.warner-tool.com/#!reloading-dies/c1w4a Nice work.

The Warner die is good. The machining is excellent. They are a little Pricey. Matt

 

[Phil]

While i do not own any of Alan`s dies, i have heard that they are top notch pieces.

Phil.

 

[SHootSTraight22]

Thanks Phil for the additional background on the Long Dasher. I originally planned on building a Dasher but then discovered the Long Dasher, and as it's name implies, duplicates the Dasher dimensions from the body wall/shoulder junction up. Using the 6.5x47 Lapua parent case, water capacity is increased by 6 grains (more or less) over the Dasher. That translates into as much as 200 fps. Some will argue that increase is insignificant given the inherent accuracy and proven track record of the Dasher. But, its not just the extra fps that led me in that direction. It's darn hard on Dasher brass to push 105 (or heavier) grain bullets 3k+ fps. Extra case capacity can insure reduced pressure to achieve the same velocity as a smaller capacity case - all other things being equal. As for the .243AI, I never could justify the barrel burning characteristic to achieve 3,300 fps with 105 grain bullets. The case capacity of the .243AI in grains of water is approximately 10 more than the Long Dasher and that gets you maybe 100 fps more velocity. Kind of inefficient by comparison. Interesting point though on the small primer Palma .308 brass. I was not aware of it's existence.

Oh man, your late to the party regarding 308 Palma brass (small primer pockets..) I started discussing this whole topic months ago on hear regarding Dasher, Long Dasher, and forming wildcats using 308 Palma brass.. The reason behind my thinking is the undeniable accuracy of what seems like every case incorporating small primer pockets.. Not only the accuracy but strength of the cases.. I love my 6.5x47L brass it's a beast!! My interest is in forming a Dasherized 6x47L or Dasherized 243AI using Palma cases only... Everyone shooting a cartridge using the 308Win. as the parent case should give the small primer pockets of the Palma cases a try!

 

[Changeling]

Someone asked about Warner dies, I don't own any, price is to steep for my wallet. Below is a link to the cost of 1 complete die (with inserts). They appear to be very well made, surprised the concept has never been done before.

http://www.warner-tool.com/#!reloading-die-purchase/c746

 

[TRipley]

Someone asked about Warner dies, I don't own any, price is to steep for my wallet. Below is a link to the cost of 1 complete die (with inserts). They appear to be very well made, surprised the concept has never been done before.

http://www.warner-tool.com/#!reloading-die-purchase/c746

They are pricey however... once you own the die body it can be used for other similar sized cartridges by swapping out die inserts. I don't recall the exact cost for the inserts (body and neck inserts for each cartridge) but it's in excess of $150. per cartridge. Great idea - superb machining.