So everybody is down on Liberty Safes because the FBI can get in them?
name something the FBI can’t get into if they decide to
name something the FBI can’t get into if they decide to
Liberty Safe -- Issue with Access Codes
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LVLAaron
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Apple devices.
Does Hunter Biden’s lap top count?
Or is it that they pick and choose?
Remember I said “decide to”
Wasn’t lost on me. I was attempting sarcasm.
farmerjohn
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I have 5 safes, two old ones and three made in the last 30yrs. All dials, no batteries, and soon as they got to me I drove by the locksmith on the way home and had the combos changed, this has been going on a long time.... John
I figure the FBI has a few “safe crackers” on the payroll lol
If the FBI didn't have the code, but had the search warrant that included the safe, are they allowed to break in to the safe? I believe they can, they were getting in that safe one way or the other.
If Liberty didn't provide the combination, would they leave the safe unopened if it was included in the search warrant? IMO, there's zero chance of that.
If it wasn't included in the search warrant, then I see a much larger issue.
If Liberty didn't provide the combination, would they leave the safe unopened if it was included in the search warrant? IMO, there's zero chance of that.
If it wasn't included in the search warrant, then I see a much larger issue.
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WSnyder
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Yes, that's what was reported. The manufacturer that makes the module is out there if you want to search a little. I can't remember the name at the moment.
WSnyder
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But the FBI eventually reported they cracked that phone without Apple's help if I'm not mistaken.
Edit: They used a password guesser so not exactly a crack. Hasn't Apple addressed a setting as to how many attempts can be made before it locks out? I think I recall you can do that. I'll have to look later.
Here’s how the FBI managed to get into the San Bernardino shooter’s iPhone
The end to a mystery that’s been around for years.
www.theverge.com
nakneker
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Electronic locks changed out.
LVLAaron
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Yes, but then that exploit was patched, so they can't do it again.
rwj
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Al Capone’s safe… only the “marvelous” Geraldo Rivera was able to accomplish that feat! Wonder if the FBI contacted him before Liberty?
The search warrant is for the premises that the safe is
Not liberty manufacturing . Liberty voluntarily gave the combo, if they had said no they would have had to get a court order to provide the combo or a search warrant to search liberty’s records for it.
That said tge FBI would have been within their rights to cut/pry it open.
Sadly this is not the only instance of Libery being a crappy company
In 2016 South LA experienced record flooding and a lot of gun safes went under
Cannon replaced them under warranty and sent a locksmith to your location at no charge to open the old safe
Liberty not only did not cover them
They refused to tell homeowners or licensed locksmiths not under contract with them where to drill to open the safe. You had to spend $300 for one of their locksmiths to come open it.
DocBII
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Good day,
I buy cheap safes I can move. Paying exorbitant amounts for fire protection, cracking resistant times, and the gegaws the safe manufactures want to use to increase profit margins aren't worth it.
If a safe won't do it, get a vault and build apropriately. Even that won't protect megabuck collections, the return on the dollar was terrible.
HTH,
DocBII
I buy cheap safes I can move. Paying exorbitant amounts for fire protection, cracking resistant times, and the gegaws the safe manufactures want to use to increase profit margins aren't worth it.
If a safe won't do it, get a vault and build apropriately. Even that won't protect megabuck collections, the return on the dollar was terrible.
HTH,
DocBII
I have a Browning safe that I bought maybe 35+ years ago. It says “Browning ProSteel”.
It was expensive then is all I recall. Dark brown with pinstripes. Bought it new.
Anyone know who may have been the manufacturer? Is it a decent safe? Is it time for replacement? Sure won’t be a Liberty.
And what’s with manufacturers supplying combinations to the FBI? Is that another law?
They have my washing machine serial number?
What’s the cost of keeping these records?
I can’t forget Ruby Ridge or Waco. These people have my safe combo?
It was expensive then is all I recall. Dark brown with pinstripes. Bought it new.
Anyone know who may have been the manufacturer? Is it a decent safe? Is it time for replacement? Sure won’t be a Liberty.
And what’s with manufacturers supplying combinations to the FBI? Is that another law?
They have my washing machine serial number?
What’s the cost of keeping these records?
I can’t forget Ruby Ridge or Waco. These people have my safe combo?
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freebird22/250
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Joe & Hunter's business dealings!
I hope that’s true, but I’m not confident. I’d think the fbi would have something more sophisticated than password guessers and such.
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