Safe placement-dilemma.

[Dusty Stevens]

Keep the gun cabinet at her house with the 870 express and the 10-22s in there. I wish the world would allow us to still use gun cabinets. I can remember gazing thru the glass at all my dad’s friend’s guns all thru my childhood and dreaming of owning one of each someday. Get a safe in your closet to keep your go-to guns ready to go and dont even let the kids know its there

 

[Axis ii]

Possibly a training issue/point will save the situation. Teach them how to shoot, gun safety, and all that. Take away the curiosity of "the gun". "You can see my guns whenever you want to, just ask me first."

Get them into precision shooting and they will engulf themselves in all the shit we ponder and pontificate on this forum and they won't have any thoughts left about how to do nefarious things with them!

Offered to take him and he said “I can never forsee a reason where I would ever need to fire a gun or have the need for a gun so no thank you. I did come home one day from work in an emergency and had one on and he says is that a gun? I said yes and his reply was omg can’t you take it off before you come in the house. His dad probably ruined guns for him by shoving one in his mothers face and telling her how he was going to kill her. I don’t think he’d mess with anything but never know.

 

[liljoe]

This sounds like all the more reason to purchase a safe.
The world is a different place now than it was not many years ago.
Joe

 

[jk80]

Possibly a training issue/point will save the situation. Teach them how to shoot, gun safety, and all that. Take away the curiosity of "the gun". "You can see my guns whenever you want to, just ask me first."

Get them into precision shooting and they will engulf themselves in all the shit we ponder and pontificate on this forum and they won't have any thoughts left about how to do nefarious things with them!

This is exactly what I did. We didn't have kids of our own but all the nieces and nephew's that cam over knew where the gun cabinet was and not to mess with it. All they had to do was ask to see one and no matter what I'd drop whatever I was doing and we'd go look at what they wanted to see. Pretty soon all curiosity was satisfied and no problems what so ever and now their older two of the nephew's are shooting buddies and one niece shoots trap on a high-school team. The only reason I bought a safe 5 years ago was because of how much the neighborhood has changed.

 

[ebb]

If you want to use the wood case mom had made for you, you could run a plastic coated steel cable through the trigger guards to lock them all together, and even better if an eye bolt went through the back of the case to a concrete wall or into a stud the cable through the trigger guards and the eye bolt would be a real theft deterrent and stop curious kids.

 

[284winner]

My safe is for anti theft, not fire protection. Sure it'll aide in the latter(60 minutes at 1200°) but it's not why I bought it. For kids, I could have used a thin tin sheet metal gun case with a cheap lock. The wooden chest is for an AR and Tac shotgun for fast access in case of an intrusion. It's concealment as well from guests or any visitor that possibly comes into the bedroom. Everyone has their own personal reason for needing or wanting a gun safe. Personally I'd have it near my bedroom but for sure close to immediate access while in the most used living area of the dwelling.

 

[Gargoyle]

Back in the 80s we all found our dad's 44 mags, 25 autos, 1911s in the garage tool boxes and night stands. Behind the basement bars. Long guns were nothing, they were out and available, but we always screwed around with the hidden stuff like pistols. Unload them and go play "Army". A world gone forever!

 

[Rsadams]

In a corner anywhere and bolted down...

 

[moondog]

If your just trying to keep away from the kids, replace your closet door with a decent metal security door. I know a few who have done this. Obviously not a theft or fire deterrent. How damp is the basement? 2 or 3 cinder block high base for a safe and moisture control inside?

 

[Dave M.]

Possibly a training issue/point will save the situation. Teach them how to shoot, gun safety, and all that. Take away the curiosity of "the gun". "You can see my guns whenever you want to, just ask me first."

Get them into precision shooting and they will engulf themselves in all the shit we ponder and pontificate on this forum and they won't have any thoughts left about how to do nefarious things with them!

My kids have been shooting with us since they were 7-8 years old. It’s truly their friends I’m more concerned with than my sons.

 

[Dave M.]

Offered to take him and he said “I can never forsee a reason where I would ever need to fire a gun or have the need for a gun so no thank you. I did come home one day from work in an emergency and had one on and he says is that a gun? I said yes and his reply was omg can’t you take it off before you come in the house. His dad probably ruined guns for him by shoving one in his mothers face and telling her how he was going to kill her. I don’t think he’d mess with anything but never know.

I hate when people say they cannot ever imagine firing a gun. Ask some of the 70+ year old grandmas in the Ukraine if they ever thought they would need to fire a gun. Humans are capable of doing things far outside their comfort zone when their lives are on the line.

 

[Steel Mover]

Ever ask your Insurance Agent about storing your guns? You might get a suprise. Depending on the standard Home Owners policy where you live you could have complications for off premisis coverage and in the case of your mother would be a relative, without doubt, but not a member of her household. Suggest you check.

Regarding a safe, before you buy, measure the house, make very sure the safe fits the doors and angles it must pass through to get it into place inside the house itself. If I had a dollar for every safe purchased, that would not fit in the house after purchase, I would have a big pile of money. Fire and water proof, if you have a fire and a basement, it will go into the basement where it will sit in fire for hours or under water for weeks. You get access only after the fire marshal completes their investigation. Every person forgets this, water flows down hill and a fire dumps everything into the basement..
You as an individual will never stop a pro, you can stop the amateurs. Best defense is that Pros are not interested in any serial numbered items. So you protect against common thieves and fire. Worst thing in any house is your own kids and talking to their friends.

 

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[snert]

I hate when people say they cannot ever imagine firing a gun. Ask some of the 70+ year old grandmas in the Ukraine if they ever thought they would need to fire a gun. Humans are capable of doing things far outside their comfort zone when their lives are on the line.

Yup, makes my skin crawl too. Mostly because (in my limited experience) those that say this are all for liberalized drug laws, freedom from morality and want the free life, but howl like a dog who got his pee pee caught in barbed wire the first time someone punches them in the face for no reason except they look like a darned good victim. Then it's all about "fairness" and "right and wrong" and shoulda, coulda waah wah wah.
Sorry, rant over.

I guess it's fine if he wants to live that way. As long as he doesn't come groveling around the perimeter looking for help when it all goes south.

 

[snert]

My kids have been shooting with us since they were 7-8 years old. It’s truly their friends I’m more concerned with than my sons.

Burglary investigations START with "so, sir, I know your entire family are fine people, but may I have a list of their buddies please?" "And ex-boyfriends of them too?"

 

[muleystalker]

Offered to take him and he said “I can never forsee a reason where I would ever need to fire a gun or have the need for a gun so no thank you. I did come home one day from work in an emergency and had one on and he says is that a gun? I said yes and his reply was omg can’t you take it off before you come in the house. His dad probably ruined guns for him by shoving one in his mothers face and telling her how he was going to kill her. I don’t think he’d mess with anything but never know.

Its not always the kids that live there but friends or acquaintances they bring over.

 

[muleystalker]

Ever ask your Insurance Agent about storing your guns? You might get a suprise. Depending on the standard Home Owners policy where you live you could have complications for off premisis coverage and in the case of your mother would be a relative, without doubt, but not a member of her household. Suggest you check.

Regarding a safe, before you buy, measure the house, make very sure the safe fits the doors and angles it must pass through to get it into place inside the house itself. If I had a dollar for every safe purchased, that would not fit in the house after purchase, I would have a big pile of money. Fire and water proof, if you have a fire and a basement, it will go into the basement where it will sit in fire for hours or under water for weeks. You get access only after the fire marshal completes their investigation. Every person forgets this, water flows down hill and a fire dumps everything into the basement..
You as an individual will never stop a pro, you can stop the amateurs. Best defense is that Pros are not interested in any serial numbered items. So you protect against common thieves and fire. Worst thing in any house is your own kids and talking to their friends.

What Steel Mover said in his last sentence! And bringing them over and they see the guns, then they go tell another friend. Most residential thefts of firearms are one to two persons removed from a resident of the household.