Lake City Ammo plant Strike

[GetReal]

What @DShortt said is spot on. Keep re- reading it and doing it until you have the life you want.

 

[tommeboy]

How are they on strike? They are a Federal industry that is not supposed to be able to strike. Usually that means they are on strike but they still have to work. Same as the Rail roads and the FAA workers and
police.......

 

[323]

How are they on strike? They are a Federal industry that is not supposed to be able to strike. Usually that means they are on strike but they still have to work. Same as the Rail roads and the FAA workers and
police.......

Lake City is contracted out last I heard Winchester had the contract.

From world wide web
Winchester (Olin Corporation) officially assumed management and operation of the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant (LCAAP) in Independence, Missouri, on October 1, 2020. The contract, awarded by the U.S. Army, is for seven years with options for extensions, making Winchester responsible for manufacturing small arms ammunition for the military and supplying commercial

 

[Tangent]

What @DShortt said is spot on. Keep re- reading it and doing it until you have rhe life you want.

The hard part sometimes is working out what you want!

Lots of wisdom in this thread. I think there has been some disconnect between the older generations and the young in recent times. I'd like to see schools getting the two generations together. I'm sure a lot could be learned by all parties.

 

[kelbro]

It's hard to make a better life for you and your family.
There are two ways to do it.
You can do it yourself or you can pay somebody else to do it for you.

 

[GetReal]

Blaming others for the life you want but don't have is the number one way to make sure you never get the life you want.

And blaming yourself is the number one way to get it.

 

[GetReal]

@Tangent ...


Well said. That's actually one of my prescribed job duties - connecting older and younger Generations

 

[D Coots]

There will be plenty of indecision for people making job choices with AI coming. Talk about a Wild Card. I think a 2 year trade school and getting your hands dirty may pay off the best in the long run. May be more white collar jobs disappearing than blue collar.

Later

Dave

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

With AI there will be an unprecedented labor/job shift, many(thousands-millions) that sit in front of a computer screen will be out of their jobs. This will include doctors,legal services, accounting and many other areas too large for many to imagine. Government at all levels(while probably last because of union financial support of elections) will also see a large number of jobs eliminated. For me as an anti socialist, marxist, communist. A pro American constitutionalist, I think government jobs lost should be the FIRST AI related job cuts.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

We have a drive up eating place now in town that has a AI voice that takes your order, dang thing does a better job than the human version.

 

[Bat280ai]

Yes sir, a college ed won't give you common sense!

A lot of them don’t make what the trade unions make with out the education costs

 

[D Coots]

We have a drive up eating place now in town that has a AI voice that takes your order, dang thing does a better job than the human version.

You're sayin that you can actually understand it?

A while back at a fast food joint, the gal in the speaker could actually articulate her words. I pulled up to the window to pay and complemented the little black gas about her speech on the mic and gave her 5 bucks.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

You're sayin that you can actually understand it?

A while back at a fast food joint, the gal in the speaker could actually articulate her words. I pulled up to the window to pay and complemented the little black gas about her speech on the mic and gave her 5 bucks.

Yes there are some good ones like her but usually it’s the dudes that don’t give a crap. The AI voice was very clear.

 

[Doug Casner]

I never wanted to give up my seniority to move to another job and start from scratch. Id tell myself , It aint that bad. Doug

 

[D Coots]

That certainly has changed over the years.

 

[butchlambert]

My 17yr old Great Granddaughter is finishing her Jr. year in high school. She is thinking being a fireman and HVAC on the side.

 

[charlie b]

The problem these days is the fluid situation of the job market. Many skilled jobs have been taken over by robotics. The mechanics in factories have had to learn programming and automation skills if they wanted to get decent pay. Wrench turners get bottom wages.

The use of AI has made many office jobs obsolete. Secretaries don't write letters anymore, or even do much typing. Scheduling has been 'outsourced' to the computer. Presentations are done by AI. What used to take a 12 person steno pool is now done with a PC and one person. Paperless offices means filing is almost gone.

Heck, even engineering jobs are transitioning. The new CAD systems can design parts by themselves. 3D printed homes have been made and the process is being refined for even less labor. Look at the 'lego' construction methods in Europe.

Medical. Sister-in-law had hip replacement surgery. Done by a robot for the most part. Doctor watched it work for half the operation.

Basically, in the 80's and 90's a lot of the manufacturing sector was outsourced to other countries. What the US was left with was service jobs. Now AI is making many of those jobs go away.

What do you tell people who want to train for a job?

On site repair services for old stuff maybe? Plumbing, HVAC, electrical, automotive.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Well as I can Remember??
LC shut down years back by some kind of funding problem??
Uncle Sam was low on Ammo ! Contract went out Remington tried and lost . Winchester got the foot in the door ?
Things never been the same at LC .
One of the major problems was when LC was shut down. When it reopened a lot of the former employees did not come back .

 

[Dgd6mm]

The workers say that in the last 5 years that their pay hasn't kept up with inflation. They also are saying that overtime is mandatory and they are getting burned out. I'm just reciting what I read from my search.

 

[Bob3700]

The problem these days is the fluid situation of the job market. Many skilled jobs have been taken over by robotics. The mechanics in factories have had to learn programming and automation skills if they wanted to get decent pay. Wrench turners get bottom wages.

The use of AI has made many office jobs obsolete. Secretaries don't write letters anymore, or even do much typing. Scheduling has been 'outsourced' to the computer. Presentations are done by AI. What used to take a 12 person steno pool is now done with a PC and one person. Paperless offices means filing is almost gone.

Heck, even engineering jobs are transitioning. The new CAD systems can design parts by themselves. 3D printed homes have been made and the process is being refined for even less labor. Look at the 'lego' construction methods in Europe.

Medical. Sister-in-law had hip replacement surgery. Done by a robot for the most part. Doctor watched it work for half the operation.

Basically, in the 80's and 90's a lot of the manufacturing sector was outsourced to other countries. What the US was left with was service jobs. Now AI is making many of those jobs go away.

What do you tell people who want to train for a job?

On site repair services for old stuff maybe? Plumbing, HVAC, electrical, automotive.

White Castle began a few years ago ( when talk of $20@ hr for fast food workers surfaced) of investing in automation for their restaurants. McDonald’s wanted to share in the research. WC opened the first automated store in Indiana two years ago.
The positions that are required are mechanics to maintain the robotics, IT for programming issues/updates, building maintenance ( electrical, plumbing, structural).
Robotics will even mow the lawn. So the good paying jobs are the skilled workers and there will be few of them as one person will be responsible for numerous locations.