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ITAR Registration -- Plan on Paying your Gunsmith more...

They really dropped a bomb on us this will really hurt the small gun smiths but it's going to hurt every one of us if you can't get work done then what is the sense of buying barrels etc. unless you have the knowledge to do it yourself. What will they do next dry up ammo and reloading components. Save all your bullet casting and black powder guns cause one can still make black powder. And for those who vote for Clinton do you think this will stop here when they get rid of our right to have guns they will look for some other things you like to get rid of or control.
 
They really dropped a bomb on us this will really hurt the small gun smiths but it's going to hurt every one of us if you can't get work done then what is the sense of buying barrels etc. unless you have the knowledge to do it yourself. What will they do next dry up ammo and reloading components. Save all your bullet casting and black powder guns cause one can still make black powder. And for those who vote for Clinton do you think this will stop here when they get rid of our right to have guns they will look for some other things you like to get rid of or control.


It all started with the seatbelt laws, that was a test. Then it moved to smoking....next... lets ring a bell and see what the chickens will do.
 
I called my 2 Congressmen today. Both are very pro gun. Neither staffer I talked with had recieved any calls about this yet. So apparenty we aren't making enough noise. If we're going to get through this we all need to get with it. Tell you family, friends and clients they all need to call!
 
I called my 2 Congressmen today. Both are very pro gun. Neither staffer I talked with had recieved any calls about this yet. So apparenty we aren't making enough noise. If we're going to get through this we all need to get with it. Tell you family, friends and clients they all need to call!
Better yet get out and vote this will be resolved in Federal court . Larry
 
TH
Better yet get out and vote this will be resolved in Federal court . Larry
There has never been a need for conservatives to unite together for an election in so many ways EVER in the history of this country. You may love or hate Trump but it's come down to anyone but Hillary. For many of us it take's holding your nose but we have to unite and do it. DON'T let Hillary get elected. Our freedoms will instantly vanish if we do!
I called Brownell's today and talked to one person and left a message for another. If 80% of the small gunsmiths go out of business it will hurt so many other businesses. Make them aware of what's happening. Call your barrel manfuctures, stock, trigger and action manufactures. Who's going to put their parts together?
If we can't get this changed we're in for a rude awakening in many ways.
 
TH

There has never been a need for conservatives to unite together for an election in so many ways EVER in the history of this country. You may love or hate Trump but it's come down to anyone but Hillary. For many of us it take's holding your nose but we have to unite and do it. DON'T let Hillary get elected. Our freedoms will instantly vanish if we do!
I called Brownell's today and talked to one person and left a message for another. If 80% of the small gunsmiths go out of business it will hurt so many other businesses. Make them aware of what's happening. Call your barrel manfuctures, stock, trigger and action manufactures. Who's going to put their parts together?
If we can't get this changed we're in for a rude awakening in many ways.
How well I know the one I helped told he was done . I offered to get the license . He informed me that would only protect him after. The problem in the law it goes back to the date of inception. And carries the same penalty. Nobody in their right mind would think not. Larry
 
I Emailed this to both of my senators and both representatives, and spoke with my senator and rep on the phone.

They are looking to write language into a bill that will define manufacturer as the company that actually builds the complete action and sells more than 500 units (firearms) annually.
Send them an Email, and follow up with a phone call.
 
I Emailed this to both of my senators and both representatives, and spoke with my senator and rep on the phone.

They are looking to write language into a bill that will define manufacturer as the company that actually builds the complete action and sells more than 500 units (firearms) annually.
Send them an Email, and follow up with a phone call.
Correct but that was for a class 7 or 9 Then somehow the attached it to all gun work. When the the call was made to the ATF the agent told us it went into effect the 27 of last month but went back to the time it was made.
Larry
 
This is just another money squeeze to see how bad you
want to stay in business. If you can pay, you can stay.
Just another way to stifle the economy of the gun industry,
and take more of your money to give away to some welfare bum
who has no intention of working. Everything Obama does
comes at the expense of the working public.
Trump cant get in office quick enough to suit me. LDS

Exactly Right! They went after the bullet makers years ago! They get a check from me each year for the privilege of being "registered" with the state department!

Bart
 
My local smith who is excellent basically had no idea of this until i emailed him the other day. He had been on vacation and he called me this morning. He said he would be getting out of it instead of paying the fiat (by decree) currency to remain in business. This whole scenario smacks of out and out unconstitutional Bolshevik communism! Maybe time for letters but does it do any good any longer?

Frank
 
My local smith who is excellent basically had no idea of this until i emailed him the other day. He had been on vacation and he called me this morning. He said he would be getting out of it instead of paying the fiat (by decree) currency to remain in business. This whole scenario smacks of out and out unconstitutional Bolshevik communism! Maybe time for letters but does it do any good any longer?

Frank
Frank
Mine told me the same. He had worked several years Buying what was needed . He is at the age to retire . It was going to be a supplement to his retirement.
Gone with a stoke of a pin of king . Larry
 
It all started with the seatbelt laws, that was a test. Then it moved to smoking....next... lets ring a bell and see what the chickens will do.
Smoking bans, like them or not, set a very bad precedent for how to rid the country of virtually anything a loud enough voice or the gov't wants to. Research it thoroughly...after calling your reps and senators about this!
 
Smoking bans, like them or not, set a very bad precedent for how to rid the country of virtually anything a loud enough voice or the gov't wants to. Research it thoroughly...after calling your reps and senators about this!
I don't think Congress or senators had anything to do with this like they did with seat belts .
 
I called my 2 Congressmen today. Both are very pro gun. Neither staffer I talked with had recieved any calls about this yet. So apparenty we aren't making enough noise. If we're going to get through this we all need to get with it. Tell you family, friends and clients they all need to call!
I called my congressman and senior senator today. They took time to listen and both said they'd take a look at it Both excepted my offer to e-mail the 'decree' to them along with ATFE rulings so they can compare ,,,, save 'um some time researching.. Both staffers said "this is the first I've heard of this!". Is everyone just 'blowin' and goin' or serious about raising some he!! about this? They don't know what your thinkin' if you don't tell 'um! Speak-up and maybe do something about it, or stay silent and except what comes..........
 

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