I need less eye relief

[savagedasher]

Looks like the front ring can move backwards almost 1/2”

 

[Zero333]

https://www.jackweigand.com/Ruger-M77-MKII-Rifle-Scope-Mounts-No-Drill.html

https://www.opticsplanet.com/leathe...nd-short-action-one-piece-picatinny-base.html

https://www.mountsplus.com/ruger-m77-accessories.html

 

[Deleted member fkimble@charter.net]

Why not just side the scope forward a little and use the nice big eyebox that the 6x scopes have?

Frank

 

[Bojo]

I'd just put a longer tube scope on it that better matches the long action.
If u cannot make it fit you correctly u sure are going to have a hard time shooting it accurate. Some short tube scopes just do not fit right on long action guns and buying special rings at extra cost is not something I look for in a setup like that.

 

[jamesh]

I use Ruger offset scope rings on my Ruger #1s
http://shopruger.com/searchscoperingresults.asp?dept=249&txtsearch=4KO*

 

[johara1]

He makes no sense, it is back as far as it will go .... you need more eye relief. you need extension rings facing the rear to get the scope back further. if I'm not mistaken I thought the old ones had a second place to the rear to mount the scope rings, unless it isn't that old. I have used 6 x 42's my whole life since they came out great scope.... jim

 

[hogpatrol]

i'm waiting on a reply from Ruger & Leupold, but i think that is what i am going to do

What was the disposition of this issue? Would like to know as it would help others confronted with the problem.

 

[johara1]

What was the disposition of this issue? Would like to know as it would help others confronted with the problem.

The only problem is the stock is too long and from the crappy pic. it doesn't look like a 6x42 Leupold and I would bet the length of pull is well over the 13.5" norm.... jim

 

[hogpatrol]

The only problem is the stock is too long and from the crappy pic. it doesn't look like a 6x42 Leupold and I would bet the length of pull is well over the 13.5" norm.... jim

I'd put a different scope on it, one that works, and call it history.

 

[johara1]

Wow. none this has any thing to do with the problem. eye relief on the scope is what is, measure from the trigger to the back of the butt plate. There is the problem if it is over 13.5", all 6 power leupold scopes are over 3.5 " eye relief. I had a ruger 77 in 308 and I had a 3 power Leupold on it and I still cut the stock off to a 13" pull to see a full scope. The cheapest fix is a saw...... jim

 

[Ggmac]

I have an old Ruger mkii 300wm with a boyd stock and recoil pad. I just mounted an old NIB leupold 6x fixed power. I have the scope slid back in the stock rings as far as it will go. I am only shooting reduced power reloads, so scope bite is not ever going to be a problem.
My problem is that i have to strain far forward to not get any dark spots in my view, am I doing something wrong? Is there a fix?
First time I have had this kind of problem.

You need MORE eye relief . Sorry I didn't read all the other stuff , but less eye relief is 1" more is 3" if your scope is nearest your eye and you still need to creep up on it you need MORE . Or new offset rings

 

[hogpatrol]

Wow. none this has any thing to do with the problem. eye relief on the scope is what is, measure from the trigger to the back of the butt plate. There is the problem if it is over 13.5", all 6 power leupold scopes are over 3.5 " eye relief. I had a ruger 77 in 308 and I had a 3 power Leupold on it and I still cut the stock off to a 13" pull to see a full scope. The cheapest fix is a saw...... jim

It just dawned on me, duh. You're right. The scope can't go back any further, regardless. The bases are stuck where they are and can't be moved. How about a siamese base that fits the receiver and has a standard Weaver or Pic rail on top. The scope could then be moved rearward, albeit it would be a bit higher.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...ase-adapter-ruger-1-77-22-77-44-redhawk-gloss

 

[johara1]

You need MORE eye relief . Sorry I didn't read all the other stuff , but less eye relief is 1" more is 3" if your scope is nearest your eye and you still need to creep up on it you need MORE . Or new offset rings

You should be able to see the problem an after market stock. They are made to cut to the proper length, before you put a pad on. Take the pad off and I bet you can see out of the scope, then put your hunting coat on and see where you are. then wrap it in masking tape where you are going to cut and cut it off and refit the pad. Better yet take it to someone that does that kind of work..... jim

 

[johara1]

I'd put a different scope on it, one that works, and call it history.

You are treating a symptom rather than curing the illness, I never had an issue with a 6 power Leupold, it is not the issue ... it is the stock... jim

 

[Ggmac]

You are treating a symptom rather than curing the illness, I never had an issue with a 6 power Leupold, it is not the issue ... it is the stock... jim

A stock isn't cut to fit eye relief it cut for FIT to our individual sizes . Arm length , shoulder size , finger length etc . NOT EYE RELIEF

 

[johara1]

A stock isn't cut to fit eye relief it cut for FIT to our individual sizes . Arm length , shoulder size , finger length etc . NOT EYE RELIEF

Eye relief is set on the scope nothing you can do.... but if you can't get close enough a saw will cure that problem. All this bs. about changing scopes isn't the problem, none of it will change eye relief, if a give scope has 3.5 of eye relief and it is pulled back all the way and you can't see it is the stock length....... a lot of people don't know how to ask the proper question... jim

 

[Ggmac]

Eye relief is set on the scope nothing you can do.... but if you can't get close enough a saw will cure that problem. All this bs. about changing scopes isn't the problem, none of it will change eye relief, if a give scope has 3.5 of eye relief and it is pulled back all the way and you can't see it is the stock length....... a lot of people don't know how to ask the proper question... jim

So altering the stock is your solution! No that's why they make offset RINGS !
Good lord , cut the stock ? To what fit when your shooting off the bench , how about when your standing , cut it again .
Offset rings , check them out , it'll save a lot of stock cutting ! I've never heard of such a thing , ever .
I agree a scopes eye relief is set but rings solve that . Or more slots milled into your bases , but rings have been made with single or double offset Just for this problem .

Done with this silly ' cut the stock ' Yes Ruger even makes extension rings and you can get up to 1" either way

 

[johara1]

You said after market stock they are made long, if your length of pull is over 13.5 I would cut it. I'm short and I require a 13" pull and if I were to shoot off hand competition I would be down to 12.5. I it were me I would cut it to fit and put a quality recoil pad on it like a kickeez for that caliber.... jim

 

[JEFFPPC]

I agree with Johara1. I am short also and have my stocks cut to 12.5. Amazing how many over 6 footers pick my rifles up and say, Wow I can see through your scope so easy. When you give then the reason they most always say, I would never do that. LMAO at them every time especially those who have already told me stories of the bucks that got away because they could not get them in the scope. This has happened too many times to count over the years.

 

[johara1]

So altering the stock is your solution! No that's why they make offset RINGS !
Good lord , cut the stock ? To what fit when your shooting off the bench , how about when your standing , cut it again .
Offset rings , check them out , it'll save a lot of stock cutting ! I've never heard of such a thing , ever .
I agree a scopes eye relief is set but rings solve that . Or more slots milled into your bases , but rings have been made with single or double offset Just for this problem .

Done with this silly ' cut the stock ' Yes Ruger even makes extension rings and you can get up to 1" either way

Maybe to the inexperienced it may seem silly, but 13.5 is a standard, and you would be able to see out of the scope and more than likely you would need to move it forward. unless you are short.... what ever trips your trigger..... put the extension rings on and the front one will be over the port.... jim