Hornady or Sierra

[Idaho-Lefty]

The Hornady Precision, 6.5 Creed. Match Ammo, loaded w/ 140 gr., ELD-M's, Has Won, the 1,000 yard, Texas Plinking Tournament,.. SEVERAL Times !
Guessing that, they can't Be,... too Bad !

 

[No i deer]

I loaded various loads with 140gr hybrids..
Loaded different to the last time..
2 different powders, RS62 and RS60..
Tried 6 more 130gr eldms and some 140gr amaxs.
It was the first time ive been out since 28th September..
i had open heart surgery on the 17th of October and my breathing and stamina isnt great..
getting my breathing right to shoot wasnt great either..
As the throat wear has been alot I wasn't sure what to do so I lengthened a little from my last test.
Sot prone off a bipod and a bean bag..
Most are 5 shot groups..
Top row 2nd in from the left was jumping 52 thousandths wow..
The 130gr eldms I thought I'd try in the lands, ok group 9 thousandths in the lands..
Could of been better if my breathing was better..
It held up for the next group the 140gr amaxs which was with a silencer on as its my hunting load..
Other groups were shot with a muzzle brake on..

 

[DocDoc]

For hunting the 130 grain was the bullet for most hunting with the .270 Win.

 

[CF Junkie]

It depends a lot on a particular barrel.
I have three 6.5mm CMs.
Two like heavier bullets and shoot the 140 to 147 gr bullets about the same with a slight advantage to the 147s.
The third likes lighter bullets and shoots the 130 gr bullets better. The 130 TMKs shoot the best, but the ELD-Ms shoot very close to them.

I find that the Hornady 143 gr ELD-X bullets - made for hunting shoot as good as anything in the two barrels that like heavy bullets.
The 142 SMKs shoot well, but my two heavy bullet rifles shoot the Hornady's slightly better. I measure all my 5 round groups and have plenty of data for each bullet. All three like H4350 powder best, and the difference in best to moderately accurate group sizes are pretty small.

 

[Rob01]

The 140 ELD-M work great in the 6.5 Creedmoor barrels I have had. I have shot them out to a mile and they have never let me down. I would give them a try and see how your rifle likes them.

Also the ELDs do not need to be jammed into the lands. I load mine at least .020” off the lands and shoot factory ammo which is about .070” off and it still shoots great. The ELDs like their predecessor the AMAX do fine with a jump.

 

[Big Mc]

When the 140gr hybrids I have are used up I'm not buying anymore bergers as there just too expensive..
They'll be used in my 6.5x47..
Which would you go for..?
140gr ELDM's or 142gr smk's.??

Never had a H bullet shoot well..

 

[Gary in MD]

Between the red and the green boxes?
I’d always go Green

 

[6.5 forever]

I quit using Hornady when they started coming apart on me (a problem Hornady denied was happening). Their denial opened the door to Sierra and I have been very happy with the SMK. Never had a problem and better long range accuracy

 

[No i deer]

Never had a H bullet shoot well..

I've always found that the 6.5 cal 140gr amaxs would shoot really well in my 6.5x47's. The other day they were good.
These are seated 10 thousandths longer than the original load.
I'd take that all day long...

 

[No i deer]

Never had a H bullet shoot well..

I've always found that the 6.5 cal 140gr amaxs would shoot really well in my 6.5x47's. The other day they were good.
These are seated 10 thousandths longer than the original load.
I'd take that all day long.
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The 140 ELD-M work great in the 6.5 Creedmoor barrels I have had. I have shot them out to a mile and they have never let me down. I would give them a try and see how your rifle likes them.

Also the ELDs do not need to be jammed into the lands. I load mine at least .020” off the lands and shoot factory ammo which is about .070” off and it still shoots great. The ELDs like their predecessor the AMAX do fine with a jump.

I just tried seating the 130gr eldms into the lands out of interest..
I've heard Speedy Gonzales mention seating into the lands is the best way and he shoots benchrest.

 

[Big Mc]

I've always found that the 6.5 cal 140gr amaxs would shoot really well in my 6.5x47's. The other day they were good.
These are seated 10 thousandths longer than the original load.
I'd take that all day long.
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I just tried seating the 130gr eldms into the lands out of interest..
I've heard Speedy Gonzales mention seating into the lands is the best way and he shoots benchrest.

Go to Vagas !!!

 

[Rob01]

I've always found that the 6.5 cal 140gr amaxs would shoot really well in my 6.5x47's. The other day they were good.
These are seated 10 thousandths longer than the original load.
I'd take that all day long.
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I just tried seating the 130gr eldms into the lands out of interest..
I've heard Speedy Gonzales mention seating into the lands is the best way and he shoots benchrest.

He also shoots different bullets. I am speaking of the ELD-Ms and AMAX. Have shot tens of thousands of them in matches in multiple calibers and never anywhere closer than .020” off the lands.

 

[No i deer]

Off the top of my head I'd say that 140gr amax load was jumping about 30 thousandths..
I used to like shooting the 7mm 180gr ELDM's in my 284 and 7mm saum. Both liked them just touching..
I'd load them 2 thousandths in..
They were superb until they started coming apart.

 

[DShortt]

To the original question :

Two questions.

Can you shoot the difference?

If so, then is it important enough to you to spend the $$$?

If either answer is 'no', then you have your answer.

 

[Rob01]

Off the top of my head I'd say that 140gr amax load was jumping about 30 thousandths..
I used to like shooting the 7mm 180gr ELDM's in my 284 and 7mm saum. Both liked them just touching..
I'd load them 2 thousandths in..
They were superb until they started coming apart.

I shot the 180 ELD in my 7mmRM and shot a 10” group at a mile with them. Excellent bullet! I was loading them at .020” off the lands also. I think you would be surprised backing them off the lands some and seeing how well they shoot.

 

[No i deer]

I shot the 180 ELD in my 7mmRM and shot a 10” group at a mile with them. Excellent bullet! I was loading them at .020” off the lands also. I think you would be surprised backing them off the lands some and seeing how well they shoot.

They shot really well for me too.

 

[No i deer]

My hats off to Berger. They make an outstanding bullet and have a huge following. I just don't know how anyone can afford to shoot them! I had to stop a long time ago when they were the only one raising prices and other manufacturers were not. I found great results with both Hornady and Sierra bullets in both my BR and XC. I'm really curious now to see how the new Hornady Aeromatch bullets compare to the standby legacy profiles such as SMK's and VLD's.
Dan

6.5 cal 140gr hybrids are around £96.00 per 100 count boxes in the uk

 

[Tangent]

6.5 cal 140gr hybrids are around £96.00 per 100 count boxes in the uk

Yes Berger are off Christmas list. Great bullets, terrible price, here. Price to performance I like SMK's, Lapua are a good option too, a little more expensive.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Hornaday 140 Eldm's

 

[762 ULTRAMAGA]

Eldms have been pretty inconsistent for me in every caliber I've tried.
I absolutely could not get the 75s to shoot in two different 223 wylde barrels while the 75 vlds shoot one hole.
However I'm currently running 134 eldms in my 25x47 improved with excellent accuracy..But.. I had a few high flyers at my prs match the other week that were about .8 mils high, that was shooting prone too.

I did some testing this weekend and definitely had some totally wild impacts at 975, and 1300 yard, even had a random flyer at 550.
It's concerning enough that I'll switch to 135 lrhts for matches going forward.

As for cost, I broke down the difference between the Eldms and Berger’s in bulk.
It's $165 less per thousand to shoot the 134, considering the cost of everything else and the time loading etc. I think consistency is well worth the price difference.