Hornady A-Tip bullets
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I briefly touched on the 190gr 7mm's and they shot as good but
no better then my 183 Sierra's. Wasted extra money. I also went
thru the 166 A-tips in my SA284 cat. Again same deal. They shot
within the realm of the 150 thru 168 SMK's. There was no improve-
ment on target for me to justify the much higher cost, let alone
having to de-oil them before use.......
no better then my 183 Sierra's. Wasted extra money. I also went
thru the 166 A-tips in my SA284 cat. Again same deal. They shot
within the realm of the 150 thru 168 SMK's. There was no improve-
ment on target for me to justify the much higher cost, let alone
having to de-oil them before use.......
dstoenner
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My experience has been good with the ATip. I used them at 1000 yards F-class. I used them in 6x47L and now 22BR. The seem to be easy to get a high node with good velocity so that they shoot at then smallest wind drift at that velocity. I used the boxes G7 BC and have always been on target.
David
David
DaveTooley
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I've never had a problem getting them to shoot. I saw gains as the distance increased.
What seating depth are you guys using with success? Jump or Jam?
Always jump. Depending on caliber it can be .030-.070”.
shoot4fun
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I have some A-Tips that have been regulars on my gun show table. No takers even at under 1/2 price.
The 6MM 110 grain shoots well in my 6 Creedmoor but have never felt like working hard enough to get the 6.5 153 A-Tip to shoot in my 6.5PRC.
Not condemning them as far as quality but I could not justify the extra cost.
The 6MM 110 grain shoots well in my 6 Creedmoor but have never felt like working hard enough to get the 6.5 153 A-Tip to shoot in my 6.5PRC.
Not condemning them as far as quality but I could not justify the extra cost.
dstoenner
Silver $$ Contributor
.020 jump
Only Atip I seen shoot better than a burger was a 750gr 50 cal because burger don't make one .
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It's not hard at all. Took me less than 30 rounds to find my 153 ATip load in my 6.5 Creedmoor.
Bwaaahahaha I did it again .
I'm gunna leave it so as not to confuse fellow members.....
Anyway who don't like a feed and a shoot at the same time .
shoot4fun
Gold $$ Contributor
Well, I do have a little (47 years) reloading and shooting experience and have honestly found great shooting loads in many rifles easily enough. To be perfectly honest, I never liked the 6.5PRC as much as I thought I would (nothing against Hornady) and that barrel still has much life left so it will become a 6.5-47.
Besides, everyone here knows the 6.5 Creedmoor is the "easy button".
Well, I do have a little (47 years) reloading and shooting experience and have honestly found great shooting loads in many rifles easily enough. To be perfectly honest, I never liked the 6.5PRC as much as I thought I would (nothing against Hornady) and that barrel still has much life left so it will become a 6.5-47.
Besides, everyone here knows the 6.5 Creedmoor is the "easy button".
Throw them in the 6.5x47 then. Won't be fast but will be accurate.
The 190’s or 110’s have been the easiest for me to use. How good these are for a shooter may depend on that shooter.
It may well be the case that the very best wind callers/loaders will score slightly higher with their 180’s than they will with 190 A-Tips.
This doesn’t mean that all or even most shooters will. If you don’t clean more than half your matches, wind calling is probably holding you back, whereas it is NOT holding back the podium shooters at big matches.
This is where the 190 A-Tips may help you, but not them, and is why they aren’t eager to change a thing. You may save a point in each moderate conditions match, lining a 10, whereas they may lose a couple of X’s, and second guess their calls, which is frustrating to them.
In windier matches the upside is greater for 190’s.
My personal belief is that we haven’t seen everything these are capable of yet by any stretch in string fire matches.
These were late to “the game”. Processes, loyalties, stockpiles, and personal achievements already had significant inertia behind them.
The guys trying new combinations are the ones seeing room to improve, hand raised, along with the rare few that are both top notch and surplus-gunned. Guys seeing room to improve are not necessarily ideal testers. The majority of guys that “probably” could do the best work with these, are busy trying to hang on to existing razor thin advantages with known quantities.
It may well be the case that the very best wind callers/loaders will score slightly higher with their 180’s than they will with 190 A-Tips.
This doesn’t mean that all or even most shooters will. If you don’t clean more than half your matches, wind calling is probably holding you back, whereas it is NOT holding back the podium shooters at big matches.
This is where the 190 A-Tips may help you, but not them, and is why they aren’t eager to change a thing. You may save a point in each moderate conditions match, lining a 10, whereas they may lose a couple of X’s, and second guess their calls, which is frustrating to them.
In windier matches the upside is greater for 190’s.
My personal belief is that we haven’t seen everything these are capable of yet by any stretch in string fire matches.
These were late to “the game”. Processes, loyalties, stockpiles, and personal achievements already had significant inertia behind them.
The guys trying new combinations are the ones seeing room to improve, hand raised, along with the rare few that are both top notch and surplus-gunned. Guys seeing room to improve are not necessarily ideal testers. The majority of guys that “probably” could do the best work with these, are busy trying to hang on to existing razor thin advantages with known quantities.
I used 190’s in a .284 this month at the Texas Midrange. This was my best target.
I shot 230’s at 200 yards a little today, moving scopes around with a new Spurrh quick release mount, HBN coated, with a 300 Win Mag running about 2,860.
The issue with the 230’s is that they are very close to the 190’s in BC. For F-Class purposes, energy doesn’t matter and it’s easier to shoot a 190 near 2,850 or 2,900 than a 230.
Any F-Class weight gun will shoot the 230’s well through a fairly conventional twist rate.
The rifle itself moves less, not just rearward, but in all directions, - torque, vibrations, whip etc., with 190’s.
The 110 might have even been a better choice for that match. You just never really know how close a used 6mm barrel might be to opening up. I have shot some very nice 600 yard targets with it using a .243.
The 250’s will touch at 200 easily. The issue with the 250’s becomes managing a hot barrel. They are more sensitive.
I shot 230’s at 200 yards a little today, moving scopes around with a new Spurrh quick release mount, HBN coated, with a 300 Win Mag running about 2,860.
The issue with the 230’s is that they are very close to the 190’s in BC. For F-Class purposes, energy doesn’t matter and it’s easier to shoot a 190 near 2,850 or 2,900 than a 230.
Any F-Class weight gun will shoot the 230’s well through a fairly conventional twist rate.
The rifle itself moves less, not just rearward, but in all directions, - torque, vibrations, whip etc., with 190’s.
The 110 might have even been a better choice for that match. You just never really know how close a used 6mm barrel might be to opening up. I have shot some very nice 600 yard targets with it using a .243.
The 250’s will touch at 200 easily. The issue with the 250’s becomes managing a hot barrel. They are more sensitive.
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