Here’s how the Red Flag scenario will happen.
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GotRDid
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Perhaps no way to live; but they are proactive in keeping the populace safe. My point is that the youth of their Nation is acutely aware of what the cost of Freedom is through Service to their Country.
GotRDid.
I seen a picture of a Rabie <insert spellcheck here)
packin an uzi a few years back.
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Raythemanroe
Bullet Whisperer
This hits close to home, really close.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/...ion-a-full-month-before-the-law-takes-effect/
Ray
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/...ion-a-full-month-before-the-law-takes-effect/
Ray
Rube Shooter
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These laws will either be struck down or upheld by the SCOTUS, if by some chance it is the latter, it will only be a matter of time before the poop hits the fan and a major re-write of what we know as our so called "representative" government will begin, my opinion only.
Raythemanroe
Bullet Whisperer
Mass shooter's have something in common that is not guns.
https://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/ev...2aDc1zaJHwo7fSYFw2GtZnWz11-PUK4#ixzz5vanIKJxr
Ray
https://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/ev...2aDc1zaJHwo7fSYFw2GtZnWz11-PUK4#ixzz5vanIKJxr
Ray
Really?
Where did ya get this - Hannity
I could not agree more. The sad fact is the courts will never punish them. Only real fix is to find those who false report and make them loose everything they have. I would love to be on a jury for a person who torched the false reporters house and shot everyone who ran out side. In my book I would say no laws were violated.
How I know we will loose every right we hold deer is too many on this forum could not let someone go who needed to do what needed to be done to protect our rights. When the US was tying to get going we called them Tories. We might need to bring that term back.
I recall an old red flag law that was passed some while back which may have some bearing and which may shed some light on the current topic.
It reads,
“(1) In particular cases, a person hostile to the government - or who it is feared may endanger public security - will be prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons.
(2) Weapons and ammunition found in the possession of such a person against whom a Prohibition has been issued, are to be confiscated without compensation.”
This is from the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938.
Tyrants seldom vary much in their tactics
That term is still in use and does not have a negative connotation in my book.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory
You apparently carve out a narrow meaning relating to the American Revolution where Loyalists did not favor secession.
Of course I could be mistaken, but I struggle to understand the first sentence of your last paragraph. Maybe you could restate it in clear language? BTW, deer and dear have different meanings.
OP, you’re combining two emotionally charged issues in one scenario, above:
1) no-knock warrants, and;
2) 2A “prior restraint” of the right to bear arms.
This isn’t the “can plinking” forum. We live this stuff. You, me and everyone here shares the deepest pursuit and admiration of the finer points of firearms. Matches become regular and free time becomes preparing for matches. This lifestyle goes WAY beyond merely being able to protect our families. I’ve gladly paid taxes yearly into the public coffers for 2/3 of my life so far, with zero public charge on my own account, to pay those in our institutions to maintain our values.
So you bet, there isn’t much I can conceive of more horrific than a frivolous taking, even temporarily, of my firearms by those same institutions.
This is the real deal on predawn no-knock warrants. They have nothing to do with private firearm confiscation. “Older” men like Roger Stone and Paul Manafort famously got this treatment recently for white collar offenses and they likely don’t even have a gun. Watch COPS. Yes, it’s ridiculous many times. A flagrant muscle flex in front of the mirror by law enforcement. Let’s not discover how bad this is only when it might be coming our way.
And on point two, - EL PASO - I see three choices but not very many talkative gun owners:
1) pay for 24-7-31-365 suburban-cop surveillance and tailing of every apparently deranged, man-boy who posts a picture of National Forrest high-risk-of-fire-today sign, and whose mother is told by the Allen, Texas PD that yep, her son can have that AK-47 despite her fears, thanks for calling though;
2) confront him and similarly threatening people and either deal with them or the weapon as appropriate case by case;
3) accept that in a country this large incidents will arise and hope that an armed public catches them in starting the act.
I’ll say that as a country, we don’t have the money to make number 1 effective, especially when the pranksters realize what havoc they could wreak by dropping bread crumbs.
So number 2, well that’s ok of course in airports and if the potus is invoked, but otherwise everyone wants the right to be subversive and skirt the line free of having to explain themselves, because we have the Constitution.
Number 3. That’s what it comes down to. We need to be intellectually honest enough to look at each other and admit this treasured right is worth some inherent degree of risk, to ourselves and our non-armed kin, and it is. And by all means, if we are going to rightly insist on having this liberty to bear arms, we owe a duty of vigilance to look out for the lives of those of us who live under our right to bear arms, but who do not, even the ones who oppose us.
1) no-knock warrants, and;
2) 2A “prior restraint” of the right to bear arms.
This isn’t the “can plinking” forum. We live this stuff. You, me and everyone here shares the deepest pursuit and admiration of the finer points of firearms. Matches become regular and free time becomes preparing for matches. This lifestyle goes WAY beyond merely being able to protect our families. I’ve gladly paid taxes yearly into the public coffers for 2/3 of my life so far, with zero public charge on my own account, to pay those in our institutions to maintain our values.
So you bet, there isn’t much I can conceive of more horrific than a frivolous taking, even temporarily, of my firearms by those same institutions.
This is the real deal on predawn no-knock warrants. They have nothing to do with private firearm confiscation. “Older” men like Roger Stone and Paul Manafort famously got this treatment recently for white collar offenses and they likely don’t even have a gun. Watch COPS. Yes, it’s ridiculous many times. A flagrant muscle flex in front of the mirror by law enforcement. Let’s not discover how bad this is only when it might be coming our way.
And on point two, - EL PASO - I see three choices but not very many talkative gun owners:
1) pay for 24-7-31-365 suburban-cop surveillance and tailing of every apparently deranged, man-boy who posts a picture of National Forrest high-risk-of-fire-today sign, and whose mother is told by the Allen, Texas PD that yep, her son can have that AK-47 despite her fears, thanks for calling though;
2) confront him and similarly threatening people and either deal with them or the weapon as appropriate case by case;
3) accept that in a country this large incidents will arise and hope that an armed public catches them in starting the act.
I’ll say that as a country, we don’t have the money to make number 1 effective, especially when the pranksters realize what havoc they could wreak by dropping bread crumbs.
So number 2, well that’s ok of course in airports and if the potus is invoked, but otherwise everyone wants the right to be subversive and skirt the line free of having to explain themselves, because we have the Constitution.
Number 3. That’s what it comes down to. We need to be intellectually honest enough to look at each other and admit this treasured right is worth some inherent degree of risk, to ourselves and our non-armed kin, and it is. And by all means, if we are going to rightly insist on having this liberty to bear arms, we owe a duty of vigilance to look out for the lives of those of us who live under our right to bear arms, but who do not, even the ones who oppose us.
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It would be wonderful to find a gun form where this kind of bullshit conspiracy theory is simply banned. No politics. No wacko bullshit theries. Just guns and ammo. Nothing else.
More from "I have too much to loose" JimT. Where I live no one ever says the word tory. As to my last sentence let me make it clear to you. How you support illegal laws you are a tory just like the torys who supported the crown. So yes we should bring it back to describe persons like you. RINO would work but everything you have talked about points to you being a socialist.
jds holler
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PT, this forum is 99.9% politic free. There are literally hundreds of other active threads in progress right now that contain simply guns and ammo content. It is not hard to find them, or to avoid this one.
Some of us think that at least a small number of legal/political/controversial type threads are interesting and important to our sport.
The Boss seems to allow some of this, but if we get into personal attacks and sniping, I wouldn't count on it. jd
Lol...you called me an a-hole in another thread and now you’re using this language? Why don’t you do us all a favor, Mr. Pastor, and go kick rocks in Hyde park...alone, with no cell phone, or weapon.
jds holler
Gold $$ Contributor
I think the psych-drug common denominator is very important to make note of in these tragedies. And if you think about it, people who have been prescribed these drugs, and used these drugs, might very well become the first "red flags" and back-ground check denials.
Never forget that the left doesn't want to solve this problem near as much as they want to simply take guns from the hands of as many people as possible. These horrific murders are an excellent tool for them to use towards this end. jd
Never forget that the left doesn't want to solve this problem near as much as they want to simply take guns from the hands of as many people as possible. These horrific murders are an excellent tool for them to use towards this end. jd
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
We’ve had quite a few new guys come in to straighten us out. He ought to go check out snipers hide and get those guys in line then straighten furguson out.
Free market capitalist here. No tariffs, no Ponzi scheme government monthly checks, no government health care for the elderly, no farmer welfare payments, no coercion to buy American products, etc, etc. Obviously, RINO has no meaning after the last election.
One more time of "I have too much to loose." Jimmt being jimt. This is the second or third time you have stated this very thing to me. What is very telling is you never stated anything about us getting any of our firearms rights back. So once again jimt is ok with screwing over everyone else because he has too much to loose. Here is a protip. All of us have too much to loose. You are just too set in your ways to know you are helping them screw us over.
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