Problem you run into is pretty much all scales in the $300 and under are about the same... I don't need a $500 scale so I use the rcbs or the Dillon digital and they both get what I need done.... Mainly spot checking charges for my Dillon reloader or as of lately checking charges for shotshell reloading... I also have a nice 10/10 beam that I use for accuracy when I load my larger rifles... I guess it depends on what you are using it for , how much your willing to spend or can afford to spend... Like I said above , if you're looking for super accurate charge weights save up for the $500 and up stuff..
Good electronic scale?
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Have been very happy with this scale, will consistently register one kernel of Varget or IMR4064.
Mulligan
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I found the chargemaster to be much more accurate when running of a battery pack.
For a lower end scale the is actually pretty darn accurate, take a look at this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESHDGOI/?tag=accuratescom-20
Remarkable little scale
Some time back in a thread about scales, one poster mentioned a scale, almost apologetically, I think because it is so inexpensive. His post seemed to indicate that he was an intelligent and experienced person, so I took a very small chance, and ordered one. Boy, was he right. I am delighted...
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If the FX-120i is not for you, the two options above will likely work.
CW
Absolutely. I'm not ditching my chargemaster any time soon. Just saying the quality difference is jaw dropping.
I’ve done my own testing comparing loads with the chargemaster and trickling up with the FX120i.
The chargemaster was within a single granule of powder when compared to the FX120i. If you don’t trickle up, the variance can be 5-6 granules of powder. The auto trickler will be slightly faster but not more accurate IMO.
The chargemaster was within a single granule of powder when compared to the FX120i. If you don’t trickle up, the variance can be 5-6 granules of powder. The auto trickler will be slightly faster but not more accurate IMO.
nmkid
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I have one just like it. Stowed away for unexpected problems.Scales Plus Acquires Assets of Old Will Knott Scales | Scales Plus
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Have been very happy with this scale, will consistently register one kernel of Varget or IMR4064.
Mulligan
Silver $$ Contributor
If the FX is leveled up on a solid piece of granite or something like that, the speed difference is utterly amazing.
CW
so you can measure to .02 on your charge master ?? where is that displayed..not on mine
Never said I could. I measure .1 low and trickle up 1 granule at a time until the scale just turns to the next .1. This method was then weighed on a friends FX120i and that’s how I know the weight.
so you do that with every charge...if not...let me tell you it is NOT consistent.
if it was more accurate than .1 plus or minus .1 they would say so...it aint
Here is an option for you that is not over your budget, and in fact lower: Tanita diamond scale japanese made. I know jewelry biz, or used to, and this was a popular scale to weigh precious stones for buyers. I have model older than this and it has never failed in the last 17 years!! about 200 bucks. I still use for powder weighing. It weighs to .05 gr which is more than needed.
It is not breeze/breath sensitive and weighs within a few seconds with the confirmation symbol. These scales have some advanced brains in them as they are intended to be used as a briefcase scale for mobile buyers on the road. Have to be good when paying 10,000$ a carat for one stone!
The only thing I dont like. which is a good feature I guess, is that every 15min it has to be recalibrated with check weight which taks about 20 sec to do and tare out the pan.
It is not breeze/breath sensitive and weighs within a few seconds with the confirmation symbol. These scales have some advanced brains in them as they are intended to be used as a briefcase scale for mobile buyers on the road. Have to be good when paying 10,000$ a carat for one stone!
The only thing I dont like. which is a good feature I guess, is that every 15min it has to be recalibrated with check weight which taks about 20 sec to do and tare out the pan.
Yes, I trickle up every charge and I checked 10 charges and they were +/- 1 granule.
When Your serious about weight : Sartorius MSU224S100DU
Seriously for powder weighing unless you're anal retentive or BR shooting nearly any Ohaus balance beam is gonna do JUST fine . IF You want electronic then this will do beyond any need you should ever have .
https://scaleman.com/load-cell-weighing-sensor-scale-ej123.html
As I have Sartorius 100DU ,I rebuilt My Old OHaus 10-10 and use it . One thing most shooters neglect is CALIBRATION of their scales . Just saying after I rebuilt the OHaus I checked it against precision weight set and the Sartorius ,it's Plenty sensitive enough . Admittedly I NO longer shoot BR ,so if that's Your game BOL
Seriously for powder weighing unless you're anal retentive or BR shooting nearly any Ohaus balance beam is gonna do JUST fine . IF You want electronic then this will do beyond any need you should ever have .
https://scaleman.com/load-cell-weighing-sensor-scale-ej123.html
As I have Sartorius 100DU ,I rebuilt My Old OHaus 10-10 and use it . One thing most shooters neglect is CALIBRATION of their scales . Just saying after I rebuilt the OHaus I checked it against precision weight set and the Sartorius ,it's Plenty sensitive enough . Admittedly I NO longer shoot BR ,so if that's Your game BOL
First Off I Do NOT disagree, but....
I'm going to only add a thought considering I did not notice what the OP intention was for getting a better scale. Based on your comment if you are shooting LRBR then maybe it is worth while if you are running a top end setup. Now in all honesty I am NOT in that league, I'm shooting a 223 AI and only at local club matches both BR and F class at 600 yds. With that cartridge, that level of precision does not make a hill of beans. I have compared the Autotrickler setup against the Chargemaster and the Frankford arsenal intellidropper and there is absolutely no statistical difference albeit the sample size was only 10 of each. So not to disagree with you as I would love to have one, but if your equipment and shooting environment won't see the benefit from that level of precision I would rather spend my money on components the practice against the greatest nemesis , "the wind".
And as a side note that really really really surprised me, when I weighed the charges from the cheaper tricklers on the Autotrickler scale, it was the "Frankford Arsenal that was always within 0.02 of the target. But as good as it may have been at that time it has now gone to the big range in the sky due to a motor failure (after about 5,000 charges). They said they are going to send me a replacement, If that comes to fruition, I may repeat this test to see if the new production lives up to the original.
A little more based on my original post. I have a Chargemaster 1500. I never use it as it's been a source of frustration for me over the years. I have re-programmed, added straws and other techniques to prevent over throws and I get over throws 20-30% of the time. If I slow it down, I find I can load faster with a Lee PPM and an RCBS 505 using a trickler.
My game is more long range hobby stuff, local comps, etc. and no BR. I'm leaning towards the A&D FX120 but have a question...I usually manually trickle direct into the scale pan while on the scale. With the FX 120 being so large, is there a long-stem manual trickler or a solution here? Auto drive/trickler may be down the road.
My game is more long range hobby stuff, local comps, etc. and no BR. I'm leaning towards the A&D FX120 but have a question...I usually manually trickle direct into the scale pan while on the scale. With the FX 120 being so large, is there a long-stem manual trickler or a solution here? Auto drive/trickler may be down the road.
Mulligan
Silver $$ Contributor
The RCBS hand trickler works well with an FX. I think that is what Adam MacDonald was using in his auto trickler set-up.
CW
With a little help, this Frankford Arsenal trickler works great. It has a longer stem that the Hornady one that I started with, but it worked the same. The scale shown is the Ohaus Scout SPX123.
Rick
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I use a charge master 1500 that has been tricked out( McDonald’s straw programming etc. all electronics run through a battery back up power supply that conditions the electric)
it is within .2 then that charge goes on the Lyman scale which resolution is .1 and trickled up if needed most times they agree with each other
it is within .2 then that charge goes on the Lyman scale which resolution is .1 and trickled up if needed most times they agree with each otherI use one of these https://dandyproductsllc.com/products/dandy-2-speed-electric-powder-trickler
JoeDuke
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Here is my fx120 setup. Enclosed box with a plexiglas door on the front. There is a powder funnel thru the box to direct powder into the pan on the scale. I use a measure to drop a slightly light charge and then trickle up. This scale will register every kernel of all but the finest of powders.
This setup works great in the shop or outside in very calm conditions. But if windy, the wind shakes my table enough that the scale will not settle. Might work fine on a concrete bench. Or with some kind of wind break.
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