Gentlemen, I present... the ".220 REDLINE"

[MrMajestic]

"Why can't we all get along?" Rodney King
Ain't America great?
The range is looking good Ray.
Fredo keep on "keepin' on"

 

[tvaught]

Looking forward to how this project plays out

Keep the updates rolling

 

[fredo]

Good day at the range, today!

Ran a ladder up with RL33 under a 69 TMK. Full case reached 3875fps without sweating. Like, that speed is just kinda 'ho-hum'm all of a sudden All perfectly round primers and easy extraction, from an almost compressed load. Based on that, I think RL33 is too 'slow' a burn rate for a 69 TMK. Accuracy looked good, though...very little spread in POI across wide charge range...

Ladder with RL33 under a Berger 75 VLD looked very encouraging! Turns out I stopped short of max, as the last step netted 3883 fps, also with ZERO pressure signs! POI group size for this ladder was even smaller than 69 TMK...me likely!

Ladder with RL33 and 75JLK was flat out schmokin! Also stopped short of max, as it topped out at 3952 fps!!! This, from the same charge that pushed the 75 VLD to 3883fps, shows how sleek those JLKs are. And...NO PRESSURE SIGNS! Round primers, no swipe, easy bolt lift...and another nice cluster for group. Me likely, LOTS

Also, shot 75 JLK /Retumbo again, but noted pressure above 3900fps. Same swipe & labored bolt lift encountered as last week. So, looks like RL33 is gonna be the ticket with either 75 gr bullet. If that 3952 fps load can hold consistent, I'll be happy as a pig in slop!

Getting back to the 69TMK, will re-visit with a slightly faster powder...maybe H1000? Same goes for a 70 VLD, but either of these is gonna hafta be haulin' da mail well over 4,000 if they're gonna beat those 75s for a spot in the lineup! So. For the time being, Imma stick to nailing down a load with the 75s, as they're already exceeding my velocity expectations from a 27" barrel...

FYI, all bullets have been loaded a couple thou. off a "hard" jam.

DA was -732 ft, this morning at the range.

Also, remember...I'm still just testing the waters here with what & where the 'safety ceiling' is with a given bullet/powder. Once this barreled action is bedded in it's permanent (GameScout) stock, I'll be ready for some accuracy/group testing...

Happy Easter, ALL!

 

[fredo]

.22 Easling forty years ago..


Ray

I seem to recall reading about some nut in Africa using a .22-06 with solid bullets at warp speed on big game? Pretty sure it was a slow twist barrel and light azz copper solid boolits...

ANYHOO, Quickload lists the case capacity of the .22-06Easling @ 62.50 grains.

As stated, the average capacity of five, 1x fired .220Redline cases is 70.95 grains.

The '06 is a long action case. Redline is a short action.

So, yeah...guess that's the same thing

 

[tstowater]

Fredo,

Nice job. Read the whole thread last weekend. I've always enjoyed the extra that a little more speed brought to the table. I don't have the time or expertise to build the wildcats but I appreciate the people who spend the time and money to find a niche whether the full throttle or the efficient cartridge.

The ballistics have to be amazing. The "point and kill" range has to be off the chart with those 75 grainers.

Looking forward to more reports.

 

[MrMajestic]

So glad you and the Redline like RL33!

 

[Raythemanroe]

I seem to recall reading about some nut in Africa using a .22-06 with solid bullets at warp speed on big game? Pretty sure it was a slow twist barrel and light azz copper solid boolits...

ANYHOO, Quickload lists the case capacity of the .22-06Easling @ 62.50 grains.

As stated, the average capacity of five, 1x fired .220Redline cases is 70.95 grains.

The '06 is a long action case. Redline is a short action.

So, yeah...guess that's the same thing

New York, friend of P.O. Ackley.. Just another wasted space case

 

[fredo]

New York, friend of P.O. Ackley.. Just another wasted space case

Without any supporting details, you're again wasting bandwidth on "wasted space".
Keep thinking' about the "ignore" button, but instead, will re-state that you've added NOTHING tangible to support your position. Your trolling is patently obvious, without backing up your opinion with anything of merit...

I've only been indulging your trolling, because its shining light on you, under your bridge. Reckon I musta "panty wadded" (to use your term) you somewhere in the past to have been blessed with your attention?

One thing I'll tell ya STRAIGHT OUT.

If I disagree with ANYONE, I will absolutely, 100%, state my case for why I disagree. Then, the chips fall where they may, and everyone can make up their own mind...

Yet, here you are...sharing nothing of any substance, over and again.

Like I said, I've disagreed with lots of fellow shooters here in the last. But, unlike yourself, I state my case with details when sharing an opinion. Otherwise, I'd just be 'trolling'. And I happen to know a little bit about that...

So yeah, as long as Admin allows your frivolous posts to continue, have at it, hoss! It's your online persona you're discrediting, not mine. I'm welcome to disagree, and everyone comes out the wiser for the discussion. So, here's yet another opportunity for you to state your case!

Please explain how the use of slow burn 'magnum' powders in a large capacity 'overbore' cartridge is "wasting space?"

Please reference the .224 caliber hotrods you've built and/or shot out in your past to support your opinion for how to safely reach 3900+ from a 75grain bullet, with less powder, from a smaller case.


As a reminder, here are your words, Post #160:

I think you have a bunch of wasted space, something a smaller case could do with the right powder..

Please explain.

 

[snert]

i decided there is not space for wasting at my Easter dinner table so I ignore...

Nice fish you caught there Fredo...but I note extra space in the transom for more fish...did you waste that too???

 

[misfire]

Fredo just wanted to thank you for sharing your endeavors. Fairly new to wildcatting and find it very interesting the step by step procedure used to bring a new Wildcat to fruition. Only wish I had the time money and knowledge to take on a project like this. But since I don't I anxiously await your next post and can't wait to see some splatter pictures from the first hunt.
Jim

 

[284winner]

Happy Easter guys. The only thing fast in my life today will be eating. Have to beat the whole family to the grub.

 

[Rodney]

I think some one is a little jealous. Had a friend when I was a kid who would berate anything I got for Christmas or birthday if it was nice. Later I realized that deep down he wished he had gotten it and it was just how he would cope with those feelings. Anyway, thanks Fredo for this unique look into the development of a really cool wildcat cartridge. Keep posting, I love load development, so this is my favorite part.

 

[Shoebox]

If fredo post a picture of a groundhog hit with that thang,
It will be a photo of a lot of
" WASTED SPACE "
PS nice fish !

 

[dkhunt14]

Without any supporting details, you're again wasting bandwidth on "wasted space".
Keep thinking' about the "ignore" button, but instead, will re-state that you've added NOTHING tangible to support your position. Your trolling is patently obvious, without backing up your opinion with anything of merit...

I've only been indulging your trolling, because its shining light on you, under your bridge. Reckon I musta "panty wadded" (to use your term) you somewhere in the past to have been blessed with your attention?

One thing I'll tell ya STRAIGHT OUT.

If I disagree with ANYONE, I will absolutely, 100%, state my case for why I disagree. Then, the chips fall where they may, and everyone can make up their own mind...

Yet, here you are...sharing nothing of any substance, over and again.

Like I said, I've disagreed with lots of fellow shooters here in the last. But, unlike yourself, I state my case with details when sharing an opinion. Otherwise, I'd just be 'trolling'. And I happen to know a little bit about that...

So yeah, as long as Admin allows your frivolous posts to continue, have at it, hoss! It's your online persona you're discrediting, not mine. I'm welcome to disagree, and everyone comes out the wiser for the discussion. So, here's yet another opportunity for you to state your case!

Please explain how the use of slow burn 'magnum' powders in a large capacity 'overbore' cartridge is "wasting space?"

Please reference the .224 caliber hotrods you've built and/or shot out in your past to support your opinion for how to safely reach 3900+ from a 75grain bullet, with less powder, from a smaller case.


As a reminder, here are your words, Post #160:


Please explain.

22-284!

 

[284winner]

22-284!

It's a good one and in a SA platform BUT still considerably less in powder cap than Fredo's choice cartridge. I'm guessing it's on the heels in performance but not quite there.

 

[dkhunt14]

It's a good one and in a SA platform BUT still considerably less in powder cap than Fredo's choice cartridge. I'm guessing it's on the heels in performance but not quite there.

I read on Long range where a guy used Re33 and had super velocity. I searched for that article but couldn't find it. It was well north of 4000. I believe it also had a long throat.

I know the 22-284 broke the speed record years ago. Almost 6000 with a iron sintered bullet. Matt

 

[284winner]

I read on Long range where a guy used Re33 and had super velocity. I searched for that article but couldn't find it. It was well north of 4000. I believe it also had a long throat.

I know the 22-284 broke the speed record years ago. Almost 6000 with a iron sintered bullet. Matt

Probably in the long action loaded extremely long. Wouldn't make the SA mag length.

 

[Raythemanroe]

Without any supporting details, you're again wasting bandwidth on "wasted space".
Keep thinking' about the "ignore" button, but instead, will re-state that you've added NOTHING tangible to support your position. Your trolling is patently obvious, without backing up your opinion with anything of merit...

I've only been indulging your trolling, because its shining light on you, under your bridge. Reckon I musta "panty wadded" (to use your term) you somewhere in the past to have been blessed with your attention?

One thing I'll tell ya STRAIGHT OUT.

If I disagree with ANYONE, I will absolutely, 100%, state my case for why I disagree. Then, the chips fall where they may, and everyone can make up their own mind...

Yet, here you are...sharing nothing of any substance, over and again.

Like I said, I've disagreed with lots of fellow shooters here in the last. But, unlike yourself, I state my case with details when sharing an opinion. Otherwise, I'd just be 'trolling'. And I happen to know a little bit about that...

So yeah, as long as Admin allows your frivolous posts to continue, have at it, hoss! It's your online persona you're discrediting, not mine. I'm welcome to disagree, and everyone comes out the wiser for the discussion. So, here's yet another opportunity for you to state your case!

Please explain how the use of slow burn 'magnum' powders in a large capacity 'overbore' cartridge is "wasting space?"

Please reference the .224 caliber hotrods you've built and/or shot out in your past to support your opinion for how to safely reach 3900+ from a 75grain bullet, with less powder, from a smaller case.


As a reminder, here are your words, Post #160:


Please explain.

why shouldn't they allow my posts? Again I didn't start the attack just because I had another view..

I have gotten numerous messages from people that have had run in's with you..

Wasted Space, how sweet it is..

Ray

 

[dkhunt14]

Probably in the long action loaded extremely long. Wouldn't make the SA mag length.

Either will the SAUM if throated where it will perform. Matt

 

[284winner]

Either will the SAUM if throated where it will perform. Matt

Oh really. Never would have guessed with a .224 at 75 grains, it would be loaded longer than 2.975. I guess I thought the SAUM was a shorter case than a 308 case.