Favorite mass produced bullet?

[LarryDScott]

20 cal 39gr Sierra BlitzKing

I like these even though they aren't 6MM. LDS

 

[LarryDScott]

It all depends what you mean by all around work. If any hunting is involved i would choose the 107 Sierra last. They won't open like the others. They have thicker jackets and most times will pencil. Matt

I killed a lot of PDs that didnt know they were target bullets.
LDS

 

[snakepit]

So the Berger site says a 1:7 twist is required for the 105 hybrid. It says 1:8 twist for the 105 hunting vld and the 108.
Is Berger just being cautious with the 1:7 for the 105 hybrid?

When the Berger 105 first came out Berger said the minimum twist was a 1:8 twist and after a couple of years they changed it to a 1:7 twist. I called Berger and talked to Brian Litz the Berger Bullets Ballistician and asked him about this change. He said some further testing resulted in the 105 Hybrid twist rate change and also the Berger Twist Rate Calculator was changed to reflect this. After the calculator change my stability went from the Comfortable Stability area into the top of the Marginal Stability area with the BC being compromised by 2% and it showed a new minimum twist rate of 1:7.75. Brian said not to worry that I should not have a problem with the twist rate of 1:8 and that appears to be what I have found. I am not sure what the elevation is where you shoot but at 1000 feet elevation, 80 degrees and bullet speed of 2800 FPS a twist rate of 1:8 is optimized, I shoot at sea level. With all the variables that apply you really need to use the Berger Twist Rate Calculator to check the twist rate needed. The published Twist Rate on the bullet box or advertisements cover a generic situation and not necessarily yours.

Here is the link to the Berger Twist Rate Caculator.

http://www.bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator/

I also looked at a newer box of Sierra 107 HPBT MatchKings and they also say 1:7 twist only. I believe that was also a change from 1:8 a few years ago.

 

[perry42]

SMK 107, SMK142, bullets along with the Lapua 139 Scenar.

perry42

 

[kris bassett]

I shoot from 6000' on up to around 9000'. I imagine my average temp is below 70deg.

 

[snakepit]

I shoot from 6000' on up to around 9000'. I imagine my average temp is below 70deg.

Looks like you will have no problems shooting Berger 6mm 105 Hybrids. With the information you posted you could be at 1:8.5 twist and still be in the stability area.

 

[kris bassett]

Looks like you will have no problems shooting Berger 6mm 105 Hybrids. With the information you posted you could be at 1:8.5 twist and still be in the stability area.

According to the twist calculator I should be able to shoot the 115's also. It said I was at a 1.62 stability factor.

 

[Jose_Luis_G]

Scenar SJ, Lapua 105 gr
Diamond Line, Norma 105 gr
Both for 1:8 twist

 

[GSPV]

Lapua 105 Scenar L. Just another quality option.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Berger 108
Berger 80 Varmint
(both are just wonderful)

 

[mmcu]

If I could only pick one, it would be the 90 grain Berger.

 

[kris bassett]

Have not placed my Cabela's order yet. I did however do some digging in my bullets and found a box of Nosler custom comp 107's. I'm going to play with these a bit.

Any thoughts on them?

 

[Olspark]

Sierra 107

 

[Greg Brooks]

105 Scenar L
115 DTAC RBT
105 Berger Hybrid
105 Berger VLD

In that order. You will never find another mass produced bullet with better consistency then Lapua 105 L period.

 

[BenPerfected]

105 Scenar L
115 DTAC RBT
105 Berger Hybrid
105 Berger VLD

In that order. You will never find another mass produced bullet with better consistency then Lapua 105 L period.

Ferg, what distance are you shooting? Are your loads all the same except the bullets? Does each bullet have the same SD?
Ben

 

[Hanbleceya]

Berger 6mm 108

Swadiver: have you compared results- 108 vs. 105 Hybrid. Would be good to know because of the hybrid drought.

 

[Hanbleceya]

If you had to pick one 6mm bullet by the big brand names for all around work, what bullet would you choose?

Berger 105 Hybrid, IF they are ever available again. It is easier to find a good jam because of the secant ogive, and my results have been exceptional. Thinking about switching to Sierra 107 just to spite Berger.

 

[swadiver]

Swadiver: have you compared results- 108 vs. 105 Hybrid. Would be good to know because of the hybrid drought.

I have done that. my first Krieger 6BR barrel (1 in 8 twist) shot excellent with both the 108's and the 105 Hybrids. took a bit more work of course, to get the Hybrids shooting, but they did great out to 600.

i replaced that barrel not long ago with another 1 in 8 twist Krieger and it loves the 108's but have not had that much success with the Hybrids in the new barrel.

my next barrel is a 1 in 7.5 twist Brux with a .236 bore. i am thinking the Hybrids may do very well in that barrel. we will see.

 

[Hanbleceya]

I have done that. my first Krieger 6BR barrel (1 in 8 twist) shot excellent with both the 108's and the 105 Hybrids. took a bit more work of course, to get the Hybrids shooting, but they did great out to 600.

i replaced that barrel not long ago with another 1 in 8 twist Krieger and it loves the 108's but have not had that much success with the Hybrids in the new barrel.

my next barrel is a 1 in 7.5 twist Brux with a .236 bore. i am thinking the Hybrids may do very well in that barrel. we will see.

My experience with the Hybrids (1:8 Krieger) has been that I had to jump .020
Tried jamming but not so good. First time out with .020 managed a one third MOA at 800. My spotter, who is a match winning competitor, stood up, said, "You a******, and went to spot for someone else. He has been my mentor, so he was kidding...?

The hooplah over the Hybrid has been that it is easier to find optimal seating due to the secant ogive over the VLP. Would be interested in hearing what others are experiencing.

 

[Hanbleceya]

107 Sierra a real shooter

Almost everyone in my group shoots it. I'm the maligned Hybrid shooter, but I know they can hear the steel ringing even though they appear not to... Although, I have really been tempted to switch just because of Berger's shortage.