Factory seconds 62gr ELD VT
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Smartass LOL.
So anyway, these aren’t your daddy’s 60 grain 22 bullets. I put together a 1/10 22 Creed to shoot 53Vmax at around 4000 but still be able to shoot some new 60ish grain bullets I’d heard about coming. (60/64 Sierra and what turned into 62 Hornady) I got my hands on a couple of early testers and finally tried them tonight. I knew what was about to happen but I still had to try. 40 grains of RL15.5 in Lapua brass went 3640. Had 3, and tried at 100yds, 50yds and finally from 20yds made an impact. LOL
So anyway, these aren’t your daddy’s 60 grain 22 bullets. I put together a 1/10 22 Creed to shoot 53Vmax at around 4000 but still be able to shoot some new 60ish grain bullets I’d heard about coming. (60/64 Sierra and what turned into 62 Hornady) I got my hands on a couple of early testers and finally tried them tonight. I knew what was about to happen but I still had to try. 40 grains of RL15.5 in Lapua brass went 3640. Had 3, and tried at 100yds, 50yds and finally from 20yds made an impact. LOL
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8 twist it is!!
I have shot two 3-shot groups from my 8 twist 223AI, 20 inch barrel. Working load for this gun is 53gr VMAX at 3500fps.
The first group was about 2.5 MOA, I didn't chrono it but I was guessing on the powder charge extrapolating from my 53gr load so I was a bit conservative. I upped the charge .5 gr and shot a group at 3350fps, this group was 3+MOA. All of the holes were nice and round. I do not believe I can go much higher, it was cold today and my 3500fps summer load was running 3450fps so I'd only get 30-50fps max before I was running loads I couldn't shoot in warm weather.
I think there is a reason they call for a 7 twist, although in the Hornady podcast on the VT they said an 8 twist may work "in most conditions".
I could burn a bunch of components testing alternate powders and seating depths, which is what I would do if it was MOA. But I don't think it's worth the effort in an 8 twist, if it's that temperamental the performance window (if there is one) is probably very small. I had an extra upper and bolt carrier lying around so I already ordered a 7 twist, 22" 22ARC barrel.
The first group was about 2.5 MOA, I didn't chrono it but I was guessing on the powder charge extrapolating from my 53gr load so I was a bit conservative. I upped the charge .5 gr and shot a group at 3350fps, this group was 3+MOA. All of the holes were nice and round. I do not believe I can go much higher, it was cold today and my 3500fps summer load was running 3450fps so I'd only get 30-50fps max before I was running loads I couldn't shoot in warm weather.
I think there is a reason they call for a 7 twist, although in the Hornady podcast on the VT they said an 8 twist may work "in most conditions".
I could burn a bunch of components testing alternate powders and seating depths, which is what I would do if it was MOA. But I don't think it's worth the effort in an 8 twist, if it's that temperamental the performance window (if there is one) is probably very small. I had an extra upper and bolt carrier lying around so I already ordered a 7 twist, 22" 22ARC barrel.
1.048” Timmy’s
Most pics I’ve seen from the “blems” compared to 75 ELDM, the 62 is noticeably shorter. The ones I acquired were actually longer than the 75ELDM that I have and measured 1.125”. I don’t believe the finished product will be what mine measured. I also don’t believe there is any reason to not listen to Hornady when they list 1/8 twist barrel. Back in the before times, we shot 75 Amax. SOME 1/9 barrels would shoot them, some wouldn’t. So, we went with 1/8 in 22-250/22-250AI to be sure.
Been a long time since I tried to be intelligent. Seem to remember most stability calculators don’t take ballistic tips into account so that may throw things askew a bit. With that said, Berger’s calculator actually called for 1/7.5 with that length entered at 0 elevation and blah blah blah. BUT, like mentioned above, I don’t think that calculator is accurate when using tipped bullet length.
Most pics I’ve seen from the “blems” compared to 75 ELDM, the 62 is noticeably shorter. The ones I acquired were actually longer than the 75ELDM that I have and measured 1.125”. I don’t believe the finished product will be what mine measured. I also don’t believe there is any reason to not listen to Hornady when they list 1/8 twist barrel. Back in the before times, we shot 75 Amax. SOME 1/9 barrels would shoot them, some wouldn’t. So, we went with 1/8 in 22-250/22-250AI to be sure.
Been a long time since I tried to be intelligent. Seem to remember most stability calculators don’t take ballistic tips into account so that may throw things askew a bit. With that said, Berger’s calculator actually called for 1/7.5 with that length entered at 0 elevation and blah blah blah. BUT, like mentioned above, I don’t think that calculator is accurate when using tipped bullet length.
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jelenko
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the stability calculator at JBM Ballistics does account for the plastic tip.
That said, if the bullet is hollow inside somewhere, that would not be accounted for.
806guns
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I ordered two boxes,I plan to shoot them out of my 224 Valkyrie 7"twist bbl.
Really? How many do you want to part with, and what is the price?
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The ones who dont have any lol sorry man
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@urbanrifleman are you going to try some?
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urbanrifleman
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I am.
There is not a donut. And I've familiar with and have experienced them.
Not quite sure why the default is a fault of mine, shooting bullets in a 1:8 that are advertised for a 1:7, when you have generated no information to prove they are viable in a 1:8. Kind of makes me question you. I'm regretting I bothered to share information to try and help inform people as the feedback has been uniformly negative, and 100% by people who have not tried this for themselves. I'm a scientist, if you want to share your data and it shows something else I'm 100% open to it. If you want to criticize without sharing any actual data, well, on what grounds am I to value your opinion? I'm on multiple forums and I have yet to see ANYONE show a nice group shooting these from a 1:8. I actually hope I'm wrong.
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No need to get all bent out of shape. But whatever... Suit yourself.
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