The U.S. doesn't have exclusive rights to Nightforce scopes. Nightforce ships their products all over the globe. What comes next? Banning the export of military boots and fatigues used by terrorists that we sell and ship to other countries :joshb said:How would you feel if you saw a news story about a bunch of our guys being shot with rifles equipped with Nightforce scopes, bought from the USA over the internet? ISIS has tons of money and they're getting some of our teenagers, already.
Dan Killough can tell you what it cost him when he shipped a scope to Canada Butch. In the end, he was given 3 choices: Customs keeps the scope - pay $200.00 to have the scope returned to him - go to court. He chose the $200.00 route, and said he would never try that again. I too have shipped a couple of scopes to Canada, but will never do it again. Too risky.butchlambert said:Well,
I ship scopes from time to time out of the USA with the knowledge of the USPS. It is claimed on the export paper work when it is shipped also.
They're may be restrictions on some tactical scopes, I don't know. You may want to check with the proper authorities, not us internet folks.
JRS said:Dan Killough can tell you what it cost him when he shipped a scope to Canada Butch. In the end, he was given 3 choices: Customs keeps the scope - pay $200.00 to have the scope returned to him - go to court. He chose the $200.00 route, and said he would never try that again. I too have shipped a couple of scopes to Canada, but will never do it again. Too risky.butchlambert said:Well,
I ship scopes from time to time out of the USA with the knowledge of the USPS. It is claimed on the export paper work when it is shipped also.
They're may be restrictions on some tactical scopes, I don't know. You may want to check with the proper authorities, not us internet folks.
joshb said:How would you feel if you saw a news story about a bunch of our guys being shot with rifles equipped with Nightforce scopes, bought from the USA over the internet? ISIS has tons of money and they're getting some of our teenagers, already.
wwbrown said:Exporting means the scope is leaving the country it does not matter whether you ship to Canada of Australia a license is needed for the permanent export of most firearms related things, ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) covers the export of these items. The USPS really has no idea or role in enforcing ITAR rules the State Department is, so just because you list the item on the customs form and the USPS stamps off on it does not mean you have met ITAR requirements. The responsibility for knowing the laws is on you remember ignorance of the law is no excuse.
These regulations are federal so they do not have to make sense, it means there will be penalties if caught. I would not advertise that I had shipped something that is probably export restricted by ITAR, if I actually shipped it outside this country.
JRS said:The U.S. doesn't have exclusive rights to Nightforce scopes. Nightforce ships their products all over the globe. What comes next? Banning the export of military boots and fatigues used by terrorists that we sell and ship to other countries :joshb said:How would you feel if you saw a news story about a bunch of our guys being shot with rifles equipped with Nightforce scopes, bought from the USA over the internet? ISIS has tons of money and they're getting some of our teenagers, already.![]()
I am not referring to government agencies. The civilian market is NOT restricted from selling those garments to other countries.Taildrag15X said:JRS said:The U.S. doesn't have exclusive rights to Nightforce scopes. Nightforce ships their products all over the globe. What comes next? Banning the export of military boots and fatigues used by terrorists that we sell and ship to other countries :joshb said:How would you feel if you saw a news story about a bunch of our guys being shot with rifles equipped with Nightforce scopes, bought from the USA over the internet? ISIS has tons of money and they're getting some of our teenagers, already.![]()
Well it actually is JRS, I contracted for our local USAF SAC Base Surplus Dept., we held auctions of equipment, furniture, parts, clothing, vehicles, etc...to register to bid you had to file an End Use certificate with No Export, no certificate no sale......as equipment came in to the Dept. that was on the Restricted List it was our job to make the items "unserviceable", when BDU's took over for fatigues we were busy shredding clothing, the best was drilling an 1 1/2" hole in the side wall of every loose tire that came through, car, truck or airplane.
JRS said:I am not referring to government agencies. The civilian market is NOT restricted from selling those garments to other countries.Taildrag15X said:JRS said:The U.S. doesn't have exclusive rights to Nightforce scopes. Nightforce ships their products all over the globe. What comes next? Banning the export of military boots and fatigues used by terrorists that we sell and ship to other countries :joshb said:How would you feel if you saw a news story about a bunch of our guys being shot with rifles equipped with Nightforce scopes, bought from the USA over the internet? ISIS has tons of money and they're getting some of our teenagers, already.![]()
Well it actually is JRS, I contracted for our local USAF SAC Base Surplus Dept., we held auctions of equipment, furniture, parts, clothing, vehicles, etc...to register to bid you had to file an End Use certificate with No Export, no certificate no sale......as equipment came in to the Dept. that was on the Restricted List it was our job to make the items "unserviceable", when BDU's took over for fatigues we were busy shredding clothing, the best was drilling an 1 1/2" hole in the side wall of every loose tire that came through, car, truck or airplane.