ELR Central World Record Event.

[DocUSMCRetired]

ELR Central is proud to announce an event to set the Record straight in ELR Shooting.

When: Sunday January 21st 2018
Where: Front Sight Range, Pahrump, NV.
Who: Anyone that wants to attend. (Open to the public, free to spectate).

Rules: http://www.appliedballisticsllc.com/Downloads/ELR CENTRAL WORLD RECORD EVENT.pdf

Event Site: https://www.facebook.com/events/375733599551673/

This is pretty simple. Shooter gets 3 minutes to make 3 for 3 on a target distance they select. No sighters. No practice. No excuses. Officiated by an independent 3rd party. Recorded. Open to the public and spectators. We will finally have a real World Record.

 

[moondog]

Next year I hope, Rig isn't done yet. Should be fun!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Is there an ELR sanctioning body?

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Is there an ELR sanctioning body?

Currently ELR Central will be hosting/holding this. With help from the community we have been able to bring in an unbias 3rd party to officiate. Someone with a lot of experience running these kinds of events from the 50 Cal Shooters Association.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

They need a sanctioning body. A set of rules that everyone in the world follows and shoots that are sanctioned by that body. Then they can have records. I would assume that this is coming as ELR gets more popular.

 

[dmoran]

Very interesting venue !.!.!

But agree with Alex, need to have a sanctioning body.
Don't know how you can have official "World Records" without one.

Good Luck..... look forward to seeing more about it.
Donovan Moran

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

Very interesting venue !.!.!

But agree with Alex, need to have a sanctioning body.
Don't know how you can have official "World Records" without one.

Good Luck..... look forward to seeing more about it.
Donovan Moran

Donovan, - Are you gonna "snooker them" with your Dasher (Lol) - (I read about the 2000 yd. shooting you did)

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I am interested in ELR. Anything long range is cool. A sanctioning body will make it legit and really grow ELR as a sport IMO. I am sure there will be things learned from it that will better 600/1000 yard shooting as well.

 

[Downhill]

Look forward to seeing the results. Really like the 3 for 3 concept. Real result not luck.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

They need a sanctioning body. A set of rules that everyone in the world follows and shoots that are sanctioned by that body. Then they can have records. I would assume that this is coming as ELR gets more popular.

That is what ELR Central is.

 

[dmoran]

That is what ELR Central is.

This is the description I read for ELR Central:


ELR Central is an informational resource, hosted by Applied Ballistics.
Mission statement:
“Our mission is to advance the state of the art in Extreme Long Range rifle shooting by: sharing knowledge, promoting awareness, and encouraging best practices within the ELR community.”


Nothing about being a sanctioning, nor set of unified rules, event procedures, scoring or records criteria.
Regardless and again, good luck with your event !.!
Donovan

 

[Mulligan]

I am interested in ELR. Anything long range is cool. A sanctioning body will make it legit and really grow ELR as a sport IMO. I am sure there will be things learned from it that will better 600/1000 yard shooting as well.

Exactly!
CW

 

[dmoran]

Read the rules more in-depth today on the ELR Central event flyer and have to say: sure hope those rules are not what becomes a standard or promoted as a standard. For as written on that flyer, they discriminate pretty bad against many of the existing LR shooting disciplines equipment and rifles.
Donovan

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

I read the rules and have 2 questions:

WTF is a "heavy rail gun"?

And how do you get an accurate group size measure on a painted steel plate?

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http://www.appliedballisticsllc.com/Downloads/ELR CENTRAL WORLD RECORD EVENT.pdf

1. The World Record will be 3 out of 3 direct impacts on a 36-inch square plate
with no practice shots or sighters.
2. One rifle per shooter for both attempts. Two shooters cannot share one rifle.
3. Shooters will not shoot their rifles within 4 hours of this ELR World Record
attempt; except for a 100-yard confirm zero.
4. No limit on caliber, cartridge or bullet. No restriction on optics or aiming
devices.
5. Rifle weight limit of 50 pounds including anything attached to the rifle (optics,
bipod, sling, etc.) No heavy Rail Guns or bolted down shooting systems.
6. Shooters may have one spotter, and the shooter and spotter must stay as a
team. Spotters can work with only one shooter for the day.
7. Shooters are permitted to shoot and spot only once in a 4 hour period. A
shooter from the first relay can spot for his spotter in the second relay so that
both can shoot. Shooter and spotter cannot shoot in the same relay.
8. There must be a minimum of 4 hours before shooters can attempt another World
Record. For example, once in the morning, once in the afternoon.
9. No more than two (2) World Record attempts in one day.
10. The target will be 36 inches square. If there are hits on the target and
there is a way to mark them on the monitor, it will be at the discretion of the
Match Director to decide when the target should be re-painted.

 

[6MMsteve]

without rangefinders, smart phones, and distance is not known, then shoot those 3 shots, using your spotter

 

[lawrence97]

The rules say bipod or Tripod allowed so that means a SEB mini would work!

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

without rangefinders, smart phones, and distance is not known, then shoot those 3 shots, using your spotter

I don't see any of those restrictions in the rules. Do you?

And since the target is of known dimension, a variable power scope with a marked reticle can do the ranging even if conventional rangefinders can't be used.

What a joke.

 

[VaRandy]

I don't see any of those restrictions in the rules. Do you?

And since the target is of known dimension, a variable power scope with a marked reticle can do the ranging even if conventional rangefinders can't be used.

What a joke.

Determining distance of 1.5, 2, and longer miles with milrad scope is more theory than practice. I don't see how they can eliminate range finders and not give you the distance. Hope that is not true.

 

[JRS]

There are too many sanctioning bodies now. Sanctioning bodies are a business. A money making business. A sanctioning body isn't required for someone to set a "world record".

It's time to get back to the enjoyment and experience of competing, and ELR Central is doing their part.

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

Determining distance of 1.5, 2, and longer miles with milrad scope is more theory than practice. I don't see how they can eliminate range finders and not give you the distance. Hope that is not true.

From the first post in this thread:

"Shooter gets 3 minutes to make 3 for 3 on a target distance they select."

So apparently the "world record" is the longest target distance that someone can hit with 3 shots in 3 minutes. This format is ripe for exploitation by teams who shoot together often and share data as the target is moved back. They can take turns holding the "world record." [And even at 2 miles a 36" target is 1 MOA.]