Dasher Test

[urbanrifleman]

Thanks Pres.
I cleaned at the beginning of each string.
Barrel only had 10 rounds on it when I started..
AR-Comp seemed to be pretty dirty.
Got like 2x as many black patches on AR- Comp than 16 or Varget.
Twice as much elbow grease. Loads of velocity for sure but im not feelen the love....I like clean...
But its only a ladder....

I did not see any pressure out of any of these loads...No funny looken primers or tight bolt lifts..

Reloader 16.
I have two 50 round reloading blocks from Sinclair.
I charge the cases with powder and then put the other reloading block on top of the other and hold it
togeather like a samwitch.
Touch it off on my old Lyman turbo tumbler and the stuff settles righr now
No 3 foot long drop tubes.Thank you very much....

Comming up
3 Shot groups and seating test at 500.

dave

Ar Comp is not dirty, that is the decoppering agent.

 

[PatMiles]

What CBTO are you gent running with the 105 Hybrids?

 

[ridgeway]

Sinclair tool. Calipers zeroed with tool installed. Insert is Sinclair standard 24.

 

[dave7mm]

What CBTO are you gent running with the 105 Hybrids?

My COAL with the 105g Hybrid is 2.440 with a .005 jamb.
Or there about...

 

[dave7mm]

Ar Comp is not dirty, that is the decoppering agent.

If thats Alliant Powders version of a decoppering agent.
They could have saved people alot of work if they would have just run Tubb Dust instead.
So far I have run the Dust on 4 different powders and not had to work as hard on any of them.
As i did getting the Comp stuff out.

dave

 

[L W P]

Curios to see how the Winchester New powder StaBall will work in the Dasher. Has any of you tried it yet?

 

[L W P]

Pretty cold.
28 Degrees.Not sure im going to learn alot.

dave

What does the "O" stand for? Touching the lands or ?

 

[dave7mm]

What does the "O" stand for? Touching the lands or ?

Zero on the lands.
I like to start there for a ladder.
Looking at the loading data for that new powder i'd be shocked if I had enough room to make it work.
The Hodgdon reloading center already list Staball for the Dasher.
36.9 for 2943 out of a 30 inch barrel.
My impression is that Rel 16 is a tad faster than H4350
And that Staball is a tad slower than H4350.
im thinking I would have a hard time getting enough of it in the Dasher case to do much good.
Would not know for sure untill I got my hands on it.
But I can think of a few other places that It would shine.
My 6.5SLR being one.
dave

 

[ridgeway]

R15 @ 500 yards....

The load produced several 4" and 5" ten shot groups at 1k

 

[dave7mm]

Thats some fine shooting.
dave

 

[urbanrifleman]

If thats Alliant Powders version of a decoppering agent.
They could have saved people alot of work if they would have just run Tubb Dust instead.
So far I have run the Dust on 4 different powders and not had to work as hard on any of them.
As i did getting the Comp stuff out.

dave

Tubb says cleaning it out defeats the purpose. He told me to leave it and let it coat the bore.

People who want to get their barrels back to squeaky clean every time they shoot should avoid all decoppering agents and just clean the copper. Same thing seemed to be true with moly. The second the bore was nicely coated they wanted to clean it out because it looks black.

Decoppering agents are supposed to coat the bore, especially at the edges of the lands. That's kind of the point.

 

[1K6BRA]

Dave, Township and I will be up sometime soon to discuss the merits of the 6BRA over the Dasher over a few Long Island Ice-T‘s Before the end of the night you’ll be whistling to the easy tune of a 6BRA

 

[dave7mm]

Dave, Township and I will be up sometime soon to discuss the merits of the 6BRA over the Dasher View attachment 1134578 over a few Long Island Ice-T‘s Before the end of the night you’ll be whistling to the easy tune of a 6BRA

Looking forward to the long islands......


dave

 

[johara1]

Tubb says cleaning it out defeats the purpose. He told me to leave it and let it coat the bore.

People who want to get their barrels back to squeaky clean every time they shoot should avoid all decoppering agents and just clean the copper. Same thing seemed to be true with moly. The second the bore was nicely coated they wanted to clean it out because it looks black.

Decoppering agents are supposed to coat the bore, especially at the edges of the lands. That's kind of the point.

Thats funny, I shot barrels with 3000 rounds with old RL-15 and never had copper, unless at break in it would clean up right away...... jim

 

[rogina]

Tubb says cleaning it out defeats the purpose. He told me to leave it and let it coat the bore.

People who want to get their barrels back to squeaky clean every time they shoot should avoid all decoppering agents and just clean the copper. Same thing seemed to be true with moly. The second the bore was nicely coated they wanted to clean it out because it looks black.

Decoppering agents are supposed to coat the bore, especially at the edges of the lands. That's kind of the point.

So, you do not clean a bore you have used Tubb Dust in?

 

[WIB3]

Ultimately, everyone will have you test, test, test. What are you testing for? The smallest group, which translates to a constant bullet RPM. Don’t get me wrong, seating deaths and components all play into account. But ultimately the football doesn’t fly if it is not spun correctly.

 

[WIB3]

Those in this sport who succeed know how to spin the football.

 

[ridgeway]

Those in this sport who succeed know how to spin the football.

That's the best statement in this thread, lol

 

[urbanrifleman]

Thats funny, I shot barrels with 3000 rounds with old RL-15 and never had copper, unless at break in it would clean up right away...... jim

R15 has decoppering agent in it.

 

[ridgeway]

R15 has decoppering agent in it.

If a barrel is going to make copper, it will do it regardless of what's in it or put in it.