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Re: Previous comments I made about T-cells and herd immunity, from The Federalist yesterday:

... Sweden, according to a new study, appears to be on its way to achieving the elusive immunity every other country is craving right now. The analysis suggests that roughly twice as many people in Sweden have COVID-19 immunity, compared to their counterparts in countries that locked down. The source of this potentially life-saving immunity is T-cells, which helped develop antibodies in healthy people who had no infection but were exposed to infectious individuals.
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As the pandemic struck, the Swedes normalized as much as they could, while maintaining a measure of social distancing. What Sweden didn’t do, unlike most of the globe, is reflexively dive into a full-lockdown scenario. Instead, they allowed life to go continue as ordinarily as possible. Stores remained open. Restaurants remained open. Most importantly, schools remained open as well. The state banned public gatherings of more than 50 people, but any further social distancing measures were largely unenforced and voluntary.

From the start, the Swedish government repeatedly made it crystal clear to the public that the battle against COVID-19-19 would be a marathon, not a sprint, and that many people would die. With all that starkly presented, the decision was made that (mostly) normal life was favorable to the alternatives, and herd immunity and economic stability would be the result.

By every measurable index, Sweden came out of the worst of the initial wave of the pandemic relatively unscathed.
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Sweden ended up with around the same level of dead proportional to overall population as other countries that did engage in massive lockdowns, and will be more ready than most of the world to face future waves of the virus.

The study:

Robust T cell immunity in convalescent individuals with asymptomatic or mild COVID-19

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.29.174888v1.full.pdf

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RIP to all who lost their lives before the virus could be studied but no more lives need to be lost any longer. Covid19 is just anther form of malaria and hydroxychloroquine completely cures it at its early stages. people should for once take good care of themselves and go back to work.

That’s good to know, I always thought malaria was caused by a parasite and here it’s just another corona virus.

there’s a thread here about how good hydroxychloroquine removes lead from old military rifle barrels. What a great time to be alive
 
Covid19 is just anther form of malaria and hydroxychloroquine completely cures it at its early stages.

Covid19 and malaria are not at all similar. Neither in what causes a person to become sick, nor how the they wreak havoc on the human body.

Malaria is a really interesting disease, the way it is spreads is almost absurd in its complexities, it is like a Rube Goldberg machine of diseases. It is caused by a single cell parasite, not a virus and not a bacteria. This parasite is dependent on two hosts for its propagation and reproduction, a mosquito and a human. The mosquito is the primary host. The parasite partially develops in the mosquito into what's called a sporozoite. This is an immature form of the parasite that is unable to procreate. In order to reach the next stage of maturity, the parasite is dependent on being injected into a human (the secondary host). When the mosquito infected by the parasite 'bites' a human, sporozoites are injected into the bloodstream and travels to the human liver where they start reproducing asexually into the parasite's next form called merozoites. The merozoites infect red blood cells and start reproducing until the blood cells burst, only to start infecting more red blood cells etc. The immune system attacks the merozoites in the blood stream causing the waves of fever associated with malaria.

Then, quoted from wikipedia
"Other merozoites develop into immature gametocytes, which are the precursors of male and female gametes. When a fertilised mosquito bites an infected person, gametocytes are taken up with the blood and mature in the mosquito gut. The male and female gametocytes fuse and form an ookinete—a fertilised, motile zygote. Ookinetes develop into new sporozoites that migrate to the insect's salivary glands, ready to infect a new vertebrate host."

In other words, the parasite has to go through several stages of development in the human host, until it gets to a point where it is ready to continue its development back in the mosquito. It is then sucked back into a mosquito where it goes through its final stage, the development into a ookinete that then proceeds to develop into the sporozoites that must be injected back into a human to start the whole cycle all over again.

Crazy stuff. A single cell parasite whose whole ridiculously complex reproduction cycle is dependent on developing through many stages in both a mosquito host and a human host, the side effect of which is the disease called malaria.


Covid19 on the other hand is caused by by a virus, spread from an infected person to an uninfected person, believed to happen most commonly through aerosol droplets leaving the infected person when breathing, speaking, coughing, sneezing etc. The virus enters the body of the uninfected person and starts replicating in the respiratory tract. If lucky, the body's immune system is able to fight off the virus (stop it from replicating) with no or mild symptoms. If unfortunate, the virus is able to propagate to the lower respiratory tract (i.e. the lungs) and start causing a whole bunch of problems. Some of these problems can be caused by the body's immune system, causing fluid buildup in the lungs as a result of fighting the infection, leading to secondary infections (pneumonia) and a whole host of other ripple effects.

Both nasty diseases, but very different in what causes them and how they affect the human body.
 
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This thread would have been deleted by FaceBook and Twitter for its misinformation but here it progresses.

hydroxycholoquine cleaning lead out of rifle barrels!! How stupid is that guy?
 
Covid19 and malaria are not at all similar. Neither in what causes a person to become sick, nor how the they wreak havoc on the human body.

Malaria is a really interesting disease, the way it is spreads is almost absurd in its complexities, it is like a Rube Goldberg machine of diseases. It is caused by a single cell parasite, not a virus and not a bacteria. This parasite is dependent on two hosts for its propagation and reproduction, a mosquito and a human. The mosquito is the primary host. The parasite partially develops in the mosquito into what's called a sporozoite. This is an immature form of the parasite that is unable to procreate. In order to reach the next stage of maturity, the parasite is dependent on being injected into a human (the secondary host). When the mosquito infected by the parasite 'bites' a human, sporozoites are injected into the bloodstream and travels to the human liver where they start reproducing asexually into the parasite's next form called merozoites. The merozoites infect red blood cells and start reproducing until the blood cells burst, only to start infecting more red blood cells etc. The immune system attacks the merozoites in the blood stream causing the waves of fever associated with malaria.

Then, quoted from wikipedia
"Other merozoites develop into immature gametocytes, which are the precursors of male and female gametes. When a fertilised mosquito bites an infected person, gametocytes are taken up with the blood and mature in the mosquito gut. The male and female gametocytes fuse and form an ookinete—a fertilised, motile zygote. Ookinetes develop into new sporozoites that migrate to the insect's salivary glands, ready to infect a new vertebrate host."

In other words, the parasite has to go through several stages of development in the human host, until it gets to a point where it is ready to continue its development back in the mosquito. It is then sucked back into a mosquito where it goes through its final stage, the development into a ookinete that then proceeds to develop into the sporozoites that must be injected back into a human to start the whole cycle all over again.

Crazy stuff. A single cell parasite whose whole ridiculously complex reproduction cycle is dependent on developing through many stages in both a mosquito host and a human host, the side effect of which is the disease called malaria.


Covid19 on the other hand is caused by by a virus, spread from an infected person to an uninfected person, believed to happen most commonly through aerosol droplets leaving the infected person when breathing, speaking, coughing, sneezing etc. The virus enters the body of the uninfected person and starts replicating in the respiratory tract. If lucky, the body's immune system is able to fight off the virus (stop it from replicating) with no or mild symptoms. If unfortunate, the virus is able to propagate to the lower respiratory tract (i.e. the lungs) and start causing a whole bunch of problems. Some of these problems can be caused by the body's immune system, causing fluid buildup in the lungs as a result of fighting the infection, leading to secondary infections (pneumonia) and a whole host of other ripple effects.

Both nasty diseases, but very different in what causes them and how they affect the human body.
Sorry for the late response, Some of us aren't rich and we have to work. Well, This is my point. Check both symptoms and you'll see what i mean...Causative may differ but i think they may have similar symptoms. That doesn't mean they both need the same drug for cure but as we know hydroxycholoquine is a proven cure for early covid cure. I don't doubt the existence of the virus but i doubt the panic and media hype of the virus. You are free to draw your own conclusions.
 
I’m another who believes the virus is real and that it can be very dangerous for certain individuals. I also believe that it’s being blown way out of proportion by the media for political reasons.

With that said, I work for a real estate investment group and have just been assigned the task to travel to Atlanta in order to oversee the inspection of 1,140 apartments next week.

To say that I’m feeling some apprehension would be a major understatement.
 
Putin has announced a Vaccine for the Covid19 Virus. Or maybe they had it all along and feared Bill gates might beat them to it. A billion orders has been made all around the world.
insinuating nothing, Just passing by.
 
I also believe that this virus is real. So is cancer, heart disease, Alzheimers, child abuse, psoriasis, erectile disfunction, heartbreak, and the loss of God.

I prefer to not live in fear of the virus, or any of those others, and it's easy because I haven't lost God.

This virus is going to be one of the many "Reapers" that take some of us out. It will be a tragedy for some, and a blessing for others.

I believe that sometime in the not too distant future, folks will look back and think, "My God, how stupid have we been?"

jd
 
I also believe that this virus is real. So is cancer, heart disease, Alzheimers, child abuse, psoriasis, erectile disfunction, heartbreak, and the loss of God.

I prefer to not live in fear of the virus, or any of those others, and it's easy because I haven't lost God.

This virus is going to be one of the many "Reapers" that take some of us out. It will be a tragedy for some, and a blessing for others.

I believe that sometime in the not too distant future, folks will look back and think, "My God, how stupid have we been?"

jd

You don’t have to look back. Half the people are still stupid in this country.
 
I also believe that this virus is real. So is cancer, heart disease, Alzheimers, child abuse, psoriasis, erectile disfunction, heartbreak, and the loss of God.

I prefer to not live in fear of the virus, or any of those others, and it's easy because I haven't lost God.

This virus is going to be one of the many "Reapers" that take some of us out. It will be a tragedy for some, and a blessing for others.

I believe that sometime in the not too distant future, folks will look back and think, "My God, how stupid have we been?"

jd


Well said.
 
What's going on in The Netherlands? Their daily new case rate is 10x higher than a month ago. I haven't read a peep about them from the hysterical press.
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There was an article in the FT several days ago discussing the situation there and contrasting it with neighbouring Belgium. I will try to dig it out.
 
There was an article in the FT several days ago discussing the situation there and contrasting it with neighbouring Belgium. I will try to dig it out.
I added Belgium and Luxembourg. Those three contiguous monarchies form an economic union called Benelux. Belgium loosely tracks with Netherlands. Luxembourg is doing great by comparison, in about fact the steepest decline in the EU.

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Here's the article link. Unfortunately it's not free to read but maybe someone else can post a gift link (as I'm out of them).

https://www.ft.com/content/d5fb0b2a-6d1d-4ccb-a349-30fccc2602d5

It's the usual stuff. The Netherlands' covid spokesperson blames "private gatherings" (summer parties), people not following social distancing measures (especially the young) etc. It's apparently concentrated around Amsterdam and Rotterdam (one of Europe's largest ports). Unsurprisingly there are now a lot of COVID "hotspots" throughout Europe post restrictions easing. UK holiday makers are now scrambling to get out of France before 4am tomorrow to avoid having to quarantine for two weeks. (There have been estimates that some 160,000 people will be affected.) There are local lockdowns in parts of northern England. Spain was added to the quarantine list a few weeks ago. Spain recently closed nightclubs. Etc etc. Just the second wave beginning to percolate before Fall. The US is still in the first wave.
 
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It's apparently concentrated around Amsterdam and Rotterdam (one of Europe's largest ports).

I've spent a lot of time in Amsterdam, so why there is readily apparent.

I can only deride anyone who chose to go vacation in France in August.
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The south of France in July is great. The problem with August is, err, the American tourists...:eek:

A lot of Brit vacation plans were delayed this year.
 
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